Comments on: MSNBC plays up “the feud”… http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/ Unvarnished news & opinion on cable news Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:31:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: tanne http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-9018 Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:48:02 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-9018 Real Truth: Yeah, I've heard of a joke. But, well, I don't know how it is where you live, but where I live, jokes are supposed to be clever and funny and make you laugh. Real Truth: Yeah, I’ve heard of a joke. But, well, I don’t know how it is where you live, but where I live, jokes are supposed to be clever and funny and make you laugh.

]]> by: The Real Truth http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8995 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:46:09 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8995 Message 13 Tanne: "So there you have it, folks. Keith Olbermann is gay. How do we know? Because MSNBC put an ad on the air that depicts a cartoonish form of his body and he has a really thin waist. What more proof do you need? LOL!" Me now quoting back tanne again: “Has anyone ever heard of a joke?” Message 13 Tanne: “So there you have it, folks. Keith Olbermann is gay. How do we know? Because MSNBC put an ad on the air that depicts a cartoonish form of his body and he has a really thin waist. What more proof do you need? LOL!”

Me now quoting back tanne again: “Has anyone ever heard of a joke?”

]]> by: tanne http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8982 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 07:27:41 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8982 Oh, here we go trying to get that "Krazy Keith" moniker to stick. Won't work--not when his bashers are way "krazier." And The Real Truth--I think it's stupid to a) imply being gay is bad and then b) use the implication that someone is somehow "effeminate" to imply he's gay and c) to actually think that constitutes a "joke." It misses the whole point of a joke--namely, that it be funny. Also, it just makes you look juvenile and bigoted. Now why would you want to use "humor" that makes you look juvenile and bigoted? Oh, here we go trying to get that “Krazy Keith” moniker to stick. Won’t work–not when his bashers are way “krazier.”

And The Real Truth–I think it’s stupid to a) imply being gay is bad and then b) use the implication that someone is somehow “effeminate” to imply he’s gay and c) to actually think that constitutes a “joke.” It misses the whole point of a joke–namely, that it be funny. Also, it just makes you look juvenile and bigoted. Now why would you want to use “humor” that makes you look juvenile and bigoted?

]]> by: ObserverDan http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8977 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:36:31 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8977 Krazy Keith looks nice with those child-rearing hips. Where the heck is his recently aquired orange face ? Krazy Keith looks nice with those child-rearing hips. Where the heck is his recently aquired orange face ?

]]> by: Goldfish http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8970 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 18:08:57 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8970 I never said I thought he was gay or effeminate. I just said that this screen cap makes him look feminine and that is bizarre. I never said I thought he was gay or effeminate. I just said that this screen cap makes him look feminine and that is bizarre.

]]> by: The Real Truth http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8964 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:41:48 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8964 tanne message 9: "As for the “thin, girlish figure” in the ad–has anyone ever heard of a joke?" message 12 by skippy: "Hey Goldfish… you are right, Olbermann’s body sure does look feminine. Is Keith trying to tell us something??" Tanne message 13: "Oh, it figures. Once again the know-nothings have to come up with a slam against Olbermann and they have to come up with it quick. Hmmm…let’s see…that new ad makes his waist look really small…almost feminine…and we all know that for men, feminine = gay, right? (Oh, please…) So there you have it: Keith Olbermann is GAY! Ooohhh…we said something REAL BAD about him…doesn’t matter whether it’s true or not, WE believe it’s true and that’s all that matters…and don’t forget, being gay, if you really ARE gay, is BAAAAAAD. Why? Because WE’RE RIGHT-WINGERS AND WE SAID SO! Ooooh…" Me now quoting back tanne: "Has anyone ever heard of a joke?" tanne message 9: “As for the “thin, girlish figure” in the ad–has anyone ever heard of a joke?”

message 12 by skippy: “Hey Goldfish… you are right, Olbermann’s body sure does look feminine. Is Keith trying to tell us something??”

Tanne message 13: “Oh, it figures. Once again the know-nothings have to come up with a slam against Olbermann and they have to come up with it quick. Hmmm…let’s see…that new ad makes his waist look really small…almost feminine…and we all know that for men, feminine = gay, right? (Oh, please…) So there you have it: Keith Olbermann is GAY! Ooohhh…we said something REAL BAD about him…doesn’t matter whether it’s true or not, WE believe it’s true and that’s all that matters…and don’t forget, being gay, if you really ARE gay, is BAAAAAAD. Why? Because WE’RE RIGHT-WINGERS AND WE SAID SO! Ooooh…”

Me now quoting back tanne: “Has anyone ever heard of a joke?”

]]> by: The Truth http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8961 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:09:01 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8961 I meant 1Q'03, not 1Q'06. My apologies. I meant 1Q’03, not 1Q’06. My apologies.

]]> by: The Truth http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8960 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:08:06 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8960 Oh, never mind about the Donahue ratings. I assume all the cable news ratings were up in 1Q'06 since the big lie about getting us into war was going full steam ahead, so I assume Donahue may have very well been ahead in TOTAL. But the fact that Mr. Olbermann is ahead now in the DEMO compared to war-time Donahue speak volumes about that achievement. Oh, never mind about the Donahue ratings. I assume all the cable news ratings were up in 1Q’06 since the big lie about getting us into war was going full steam ahead, so I assume Donahue may have very well been ahead in TOTAL.

But the fact that Mr. Olbermann is ahead now in the DEMO compared to war-time Donahue speak volumes about that achievement.

]]> by: The Truth http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8959 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:02:16 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8959 You claim O'Liely was talking about fewer TOTAL viewers, not DEMO viewers. First, please point out where O'Liely said "fewer TOTAL viewers" and not just "fewer viewers". Second, you could point out the numbers for Olbermann 1Q'06 vs. Donahue 1Q'03, TOTAL and DEMO. I honestly don't know what Donahue's numbers were back then, so it could back you up. Oh, and please use a credible source, not something Mr. Cox would use. You claim O’Liely was talking about fewer TOTAL viewers, not DEMO viewers. First, please point out where O’Liely said “fewer TOTAL viewers” and not just “fewer viewers”. Second, you could point out the numbers for Olbermann 1Q’06 vs. Donahue 1Q’03, TOTAL and DEMO. I honestly don’t know what Donahue’s numbers were back then, so it could back you up.

Oh, and please use a credible source, not something Mr. Cox would use.

]]> by: tanne http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8958 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:44:12 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8958 Oh, it figures. Once again the know-nothings have to come up with a slam against Olbermann and they have to come up with it quick. Hmmm...let's see...that new ad makes his waist look really small...almost feminine...and we all know that for men, feminine = gay, right? (Oh, please...) So there you have it: Keith Olbermann is GAY! Ooohhh...we said something REAL BAD about him...doesn't matter whether it's true or not, WE believe it's true and that's all that matters...and don't forget, being gay, if you really ARE gay, is BAAAAAAD. Why? Because WE'RE RIGHT-WINGERS AND WE SAID SO! Ooooh... So there you have it, folks. Keith Olbermann is gay. How do we know? Because MSNBC put an ad on the air that depicts a cartoonish form of his body and he has a really thin waist. What more proof do you need? LOL! Oh, it figures. Once again the know-nothings have to come up with a slam against Olbermann and they have to come up with it quick. Hmmm…let’s see…that new ad makes his waist look really small…almost feminine…and we all know that for men, feminine = gay, right? (Oh, please…) So there you have it: Keith Olbermann is GAY! Ooohhh…we said something REAL BAD about him…doesn’t matter whether it’s true or not, WE believe it’s true and that’s all that matters…and don’t forget, being gay, if you really ARE gay, is BAAAAAAD. Why? Because WE’RE RIGHT-WINGERS AND WE SAID SO! Ooooh…

So there you have it, folks. Keith Olbermann is gay. How do we know? Because MSNBC put an ad on the air that depicts a cartoonish form of his body and he has a really thin waist. What more proof do you need? LOL!

]]> by: Skippy http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8948 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 12:45:45 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8948 Hey Goldfish... you are right, Olbermann's body sure does look feminine. Is Keith trying to tell us something?? Hey Goldfish… you are right, Olbermann’s body sure does look feminine.

Is Keith trying to tell us something??

]]> by: Spud http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8943 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 09:17:59 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8943 If it was the same regime that canned Donahue it would be wierd. As that occurred under Shapiro, it's not. If it was the same regime that canned Donahue it would be wierd. As that occurred under Shapiro, it’s not.

]]> by: Huh? http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8942 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 09:04:41 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8942 What's weird about the ad, though it's funny, is that it amounts to MSNBC dissing its own former show. How must Phil Donahue feel about it? What’s weird about the ad, though it’s funny, is that it amounts to MSNBC dissing its own former show. How must Phil Donahue feel about it?

]]> by: tanne http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8940 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:07:00 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8940 Oh boy, MSNBC may lose ONE WHOLE VIEWER for this campaign...oooh... As for what Spud said, look, Olbermann is not stupid. He knows the money demo is what counts and if he's doing better in the money demo than Donahue was, that's what he and his ads are going to emphasize--no matter what Bill O'Reilly did or didn't say. Because do you think O'Reilly would ever admit the truth about Olbermann doing better in the money demo? In your dreams! Missy, the 157 number is bigger than what Donahue's was in the money demo when his show went off the air--THAT's where the "growth" is. As for the "thin, girlish figure" in the ad--has anyone ever heard of a joke? It's quite obvious from reading all this who can take a joke and who can't--i.e., whose first words in the face of anything they don't understand are "SHUT UP!" Oh, and Spud, looks as if it may be time for you to go back and see how many of your anti-Olbermann comments are coming from the same address. Oh boy, MSNBC may lose ONE WHOLE VIEWER for this campaign…oooh…

As for what Spud said, look, Olbermann is not stupid. He knows the money demo is what counts and if he’s doing better in the money demo than Donahue was, that’s what he and his ads are going to emphasize–no matter what Bill O’Reilly did or didn’t say. Because do you think O’Reilly would ever admit the truth about Olbermann doing better in the money demo? In your dreams!

Missy, the 157 number is bigger than what Donahue’s was in the money demo when his show went off the air–THAT’s where the “growth” is.

As for the “thin, girlish figure” in the ad–has anyone ever heard of a joke?

It’s quite obvious from reading all this who can take a joke and who can’t–i.e., whose first words in the face of anything they don’t understand are “SHUT UP!” Oh, and Spud, looks as if it may be time for you to go back and see how many of your anti-Olbermann comments are coming from the same address.

]]> by: museglet http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8937 Sun, 02 Apr 2006 18:08:34 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8937 Still not clear why people are acting surprised at a reaction to BOR's words and behavior. A few years back he yelled "shut up!" several times at Al Franken when they were on a panel together, then he got FOX to sue him for use of his likeness on Frankens's book, which promptly got thrown out of court, and a month ago he said he would ask the FEC to investigate Franken's possible campaign for Senate (I assume he has friends in high places there, just like his friend Bob Wright at NBC). Being called out for his endless factual errors and outright lies, by Olbermann or anyone else, is just good journalism. Didn't hear much complaining from the same people when Judith Miller or Dan Rather were called upon to explain their perceived or real indiscretions. It still just comes down to not accepting even ONE voice on ALL of cable news who is not right-of-center. Still not clear why people are acting surprised at a reaction to BOR’s words and behavior. A few years back he yelled “shut up!” several times at Al Franken when they were on a panel together, then he got FOX to sue him for use of his likeness on Frankens’s book, which promptly got thrown out of court, and a month ago he said he would ask the FEC to investigate Franken’s possible campaign for Senate (I assume he has friends in high places there, just like his friend Bob Wright at NBC). Being called out for his endless factual errors and outright lies, by Olbermann or anyone else, is just good journalism.

Didn’t hear much complaining from the same people when Judith Miller or Dan Rather were called upon to explain their perceived or real indiscretions. It still just comes down to not accepting even ONE voice on ALL of cable news who is not right-of-center.

]]> by: Goldfish http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8936 Sun, 02 Apr 2006 17:07:12 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8936 Why does the Olby caricature(screen cap, above)have a thin, girlish figure? Another strange twist in this freak show rivalry. Why does the Olby caricature(screen cap, above)have a thin, girlish figure? Another strange twist in this freak show rivalry.

]]> by: Spud http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8934 Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:24:09 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8934 O'Reilly is hardly squeaky clean on that score Dollar... O’Reilly is hardly squeaky clean on that score Dollar…

]]> by: johnny dollar http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8933 Sun, 02 Apr 2006 14:22:41 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8933 > the ad dings O’Reilly for something he never said. Following in Olbermann's footsteps. > the ad dings O’Reilly for something he never said.

Following in Olbermann’s footsteps.

]]> by: Terance http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8932 Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:59:08 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8932 Watch Countdown and see what KO thinks of BO. (once again) KO's act is so old and tired he reeks of desperation. At least if I watch BO there's a pretty good chance the "big tease" won't be about KO. Watch Countdown and see what KO thinks of BO. (once again) KO’s act is so old and tired he reeks of desperation. At least if I watch BO there’s a pretty good chance the “big tease” won’t be about KO.

]]> by: Missy http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8931 Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:52:12 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8931 tanne, this is your idea of brilliant? God help you. And what's the demo primetime growth number of 157K supposed to denote - is it growth in a month, Olbermann's total audience, his =/- over Donahue, over O'Reilly, or what? Anyone familiar with any type of TV ratings would feel that the number in itself is miniscule amount, so the ad should have at least explained what the 157K number denotes. I'll TRY to refrain from posting on this topic for a while, because for the life of me, I cannot see how this one-sided obsession of Olbermann's can be characterized as a feud. tanne, this is your idea of brilliant? God help you. And what’s the demo primetime growth number of 157K supposed to denote - is it growth in a month, Olbermann’s total audience, his =/- over Donahue, over O’Reilly, or what?

Anyone familiar with any type of TV ratings would feel that the number in itself is miniscule amount, so the ad should have at least explained what the 157K number denotes.

I’ll TRY to refrain from posting on this topic for a while, because for the life of me, I cannot see how this one-sided obsession of Olbermann’s can be characterized as a feud.

]]> by: tanne http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8929 Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:26:09 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8929 LOL! This isn't high school, this ad is a work of art. Brilliant, just brilliant. It's too late for Bill to decide not to "play"--he already gave them way too much to work with and this is the result! HE was the one who acted like a petulant high schooler with his stupid campaigns to get Keith replaced with Phil Donahue and cutting radio show callers off at the mere mention of his name. He made the mistake of giving his enemies enough rope to hang him with--and now that they've got it, they're not letting go. Too late, Bill. You can lock the barn door, but the horse escaped long ago! LOL! This isn’t high school, this ad is a work of art. Brilliant, just brilliant. It’s too late for Bill to decide not to “play”–he already gave them way too much to work with and this is the result! HE was the one who acted like a petulant high schooler with his stupid campaigns to get Keith replaced with Phil Donahue and cutting radio show callers off at the mere mention of his name. He made the mistake of giving his enemies enough rope to hang him with–and now that they’ve got it, they’re not letting go. Too late, Bill. You can lock the barn door, but the horse escaped long ago!

]]> by: Sophia http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8928 Sun, 02 Apr 2006 11:26:12 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/04/02/msnbc-plays-up-the-feud/#comment-8928 Hard to believe the powers that be at MSNBC are playing along with this. Talk about High School Harry - and hey, guess what? Bill O'Rielly's not playin. Hard to believe the powers that be at MSNBC are playing along with this. Talk about High School Harry - and hey, guess what? Bill O’Rielly’s not playin.

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