Elaine Jeffs on 360….
Here is the transcript of Elaine Jeffs 360 appearance last night…
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: So much about the FLDS remains unknown.
It’s really a closed, secret society in America. We have been trying to understand the life inside the sect for months now.
Our next two guests know what it’s like up close. Elaine Jeffs is Warren Jeffs’ sister. She grew up in the sect with her brother. She — she left. She was 41 years old when she escaped, finally kidnapped some of her kids.
Filmmaker Laurie Allen grew up in a different sect. She, too, broke away, and made a documentary about polygamy called “Banking on Heaven.”
I spoke to them both earlier, in an exclusive interview.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)COOPER: Elaine, let me start off with you.
What went through your mind when you heard that your brother had been arrested?
ELAINE JEFFS, BROTHER OF WARREN JEFFS: Oh, I was — at first, I thought, I wonder if it really is him. I — I — I wondered if they were going to positively I.D. him. But, then, I was just very relieved
— like a lot of other people, very relieved.
COOPER: You know, when you see those pictures of him, when you — when you hear those — those sermons of his, does it feel like — I mean, do you say to yourself, that’s my brother?
JEFFS: Yes. I say, that’s my brother. And that’s him, and not me.
COOPER: Does it — I mean, do you understand what he’s doing? Do you understand what he has become?
JEFFS: Yes, I think I do.
He’s — he’s trying to build a perfect people. And he’s — he’s — he’s aiming for perfection.
COOPER: What was he like as a child?
JEFFS: Well, he was just my snot-nosed little brother.
(LAUGHTER)
COOPER: And do you have — how many siblings did you have?
JEFFS: I had — I’m the oldest of 65.
COOPER: Sixty-five?
JEFFS: Yes.
COOPER: Wow.
JEFFS: Yes.
COOPER: Laurie, why do you think it — it’s important that — that — that Jeffs has been captured?
LAURIE ALLEN, FILMMAKER: I think it’s important, because I think that he’s hurting a lot of lives, a lot of American families.
And I think that he and other folks like him, other leaders of some of these groups, that — like the Kingston groups. These are men that are very narcissistic. They think that they’re, you know, God’s chosen.
And they’re hurting families, and they’re hurting children. And — and we really need to — to get it stopped.
COOPER: Let — let’s talk about how they’re hurting, because — I want to play you a clip from your documentary “Banking on Heaven” about some of the — the abuses that you say go on.
Let — let’s listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, “BANKING ON HEAVEN”)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And, then, you grow up also going to bed every night, and laying awake for hours, waiting to hear the footsteps coming down the hall.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And what did that mean?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That usually meant your dad was coming to your bed.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COOPER: The implication, obviously, being molestation. I mean, is that prevalent, in your opinion, within the FLDS?
ALLEN: Well, it is, Anderson, because, when you take away a man’s control over his own life, and control over his finances, control over his family, whether or not he can keep a wife or give — be given a wife, or whatever, men, you know, do things like molest their children, because that — it — it ultimately leads to, that’s the only thing left they have to control.
And this is a problem. And this is — this is not — it’s not across the board with all of the men in these — in these fundamental cults, but they — it is common, and especially in — in Colorado City. That was one of the things that surprised me the most, in the process of making this film, is that it — how many — everybody I interviewed had been molested. It — it’s just — it — I couldn’t believe it.
COOPER: Elaine, are you angry at your brother? Do you feel sorry for him? What — what — what is the feeling?
JEFFS: I — I just feel — I feel pretty detached, mostly. I do feel sorry for him, but I know he really, really believes in what he’s doing.
(CROSSTALK)
COOPER: Do you think he’s really trying to do — I mean, because there are those who have painted him as — as a monster, really, as someone who is, you know, arbitrarily, you know, send — taking wives from one man, and — and — and reassigning them to — reassigning a wife to another man.
Do — you think he’s — his intentions are good?
JEFFS: I think he thinks his intentions are good.
I think — I don’t. I think it’s — it’s just terribly wrong, and that isn’t the way my father did it.
COOPER: How was your father different? Your father, Rulon, became the
— the leader of the FLDS.
JEFFS: It — how did he become the leader?
COOPER: How was he different than — than…
JEFFS: Oh. He…
COOPER: … than Warren?
JEFFS: He was — he was much milder. And he really believed in keeping families together.
They — if someone was unhappy with their situation, he would encourage them to stick with it.
COOPER: What do you think should happen to your brother, Elaine?
JEFFS: I think he needs — needs to face the justice system, and get a fair trial for what — for what he’s accused of. And we will see how it turns out.
COOPER: Elaine Jeffs, Laurie Allen, thank you very much.
ALLEN: Thank you.
JEFFS: Thank you.
ALLEN: Thank you very much.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
COOPER: We are going to have more of my exclusive interview with Elaine and Laurie tomorrow on 360, an inside look at a secret society that is literally hiding in plain sight.



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Comment by Jordan — September 1, 2006 @ 11:15 am
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Comment by Don Kerns — April 15, 2007 @ 12:35 am