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	<title>Comments on: Open Warfare&#8230;</title>
	<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/</link>
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		<title>by: erljr</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22161</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I highly doubt Charles Krauthammer reads this blog Kewalo. This is not the place to be demanding an apology from him. I'm told he's easy to find; he's the one trying to run everybody down with his wheelchair. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I highly doubt Charles Krauthammer reads this blog Kewalo. This is not the place to be demanding an apology from him. I&#8217;m told he&#8217;s easy to find; he&#8217;s the one trying to run everybody down with his wheelchair.
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		<title>by: Kewalo</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22146</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Missy, I wouldn't dream of calling anyone a liar about being taken in about WMD's. Many people were fooled, good people own up to being fooled. This isn't right or left, conservative or liberal, no matter how people would like to frame it. It's about being a grown-up and admitting when one has been wrong. Seems simple to me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Missy, I wouldn&#8217;t dream of calling anyone a liar about being taken in about WMD&#8217;s. Many people were fooled, good people own up to being fooled. This isn&#8217;t right or left, conservative or liberal, no matter how people would like to frame it. It&#8217;s about being a grown-up and admitting when one has been wrong. Seems simple to me.
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		<title>by: Kewalo</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22145</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22145</guid>
					<description>Bigred, you said you would love to be shown where Krauthammer was wrong. So, I posted an article that showed he was not just wrong once, but over and over again. Personally, I can't think of one reason to listen to him now. 

I certainly don't contend he was the only one that was wrong about the WMD's, but it looks like he would like to pretend that he never said the things he did. Why not just own up to them and go on. Isn't that what personal responsibility is all about? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bigred, you said you would love to be shown where Krauthammer was wrong. So, I posted an article that showed he was not just wrong once, but over and over again. Personally, I can&#8217;t think of one reason to listen to him now. </p>
	<p>I certainly don&#8217;t contend he was the only one that was wrong about the WMD&#8217;s, but it looks like he would like to pretend that he never said the things he did. Why not just own up to them and go on. Isn&#8217;t that what personal responsibility is all about?
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		<title>by: Missy</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22141</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 19:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22141</guid>
					<description>bigred, it's amazing how it's only conservatives who are liars about the WMD, isn't it?  But the libs who made similar statements, even during the Clinton years, are always forgiven for any miscalculations they may have made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>bigred, it&#8217;s amazing how it&#8217;s only conservatives who are liars about the WMD, isn&#8217;t it?  But the libs who made similar statements, even during the Clinton years, are always forgiven for any miscalculations they may have made.
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		<title>by: bigred</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22126</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22126</guid>
					<description>Thanks.  So Krauthammer was wrong about Iraq having WMD.  I guess he isn't so smart.  I would've thought he knew more than Hillary, Bill Clnton, the UN, Tony Blair, the governments of France, Germany &amp;amp; Russia, John Kerry, John Edwards, Al Gore, the leaders of Egypt &amp;amp; Jordan, intelligence agencies around the world and all those other not-so-smart people who thought Iraq had WMD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks.  So Krauthammer was wrong about Iraq having WMD.  I guess he isn&#8217;t so smart.  I would&#8217;ve thought he knew more than Hillary, Bill Clnton, the UN, Tony Blair, the governments of France, Germany &amp; Russia, John Kerry, John Edwards, Al Gore, the leaders of Egypt &amp; Jordan, intelligence agencies around the world and all those other not-so-smart people who thought Iraq had WMD.
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		<title>by: Kewalo</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22116</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 02:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22116</guid>
					<description>This is for Bigred, from the American Conservative.

While it is difficult to be more dishonest than Ledeen, it is difficult to be more wrong than Charles Krauthammer. Prior to the invasion, Krauthammer used his various media platforms—his column at the Washington Post and his almost daily appearances on Fox News—to warn that Iraq was rapidly building up its WMD capabilities and that the U.S. risked running out of time if it did not invade immediately. He assured Americans that the war would pay for itself with oil revenues and that Iraqis would greet Americans as liberators.

http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_01_15/article1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This is for Bigred, from the American Conservative.</p>
	<p>While it is difficult to be more dishonest than Ledeen, it is difficult to be more wrong than Charles Krauthammer. Prior to the invasion, Krauthammer used his various media platforms—his column at the Washington Post and his almost daily appearances on Fox News—to warn that Iraq was rapidly building up its WMD capabilities and that the U.S. risked running out of time if it did not invade immediately. He assured Americans that the war would pay for itself with oil revenues and that Iraqis would greet Americans as liberators.</p>
	<p><a >http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_01_15/article1.html</a>
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		<title>by: erljr</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22112</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 00:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22112</guid>
					<description>Chris - 
How old are you? Three of your sentences start with &quot;I mean,&quot; two of them start with &quot;In all honesty,&quot; and one starts with &quot;Honestly.&quot; 
&lt;i&gt;In all honesty,&lt;/i&gt; Chris, since you've been watching NBC for so long, you should like &quot;Fox News Sunday,&quot; with Chris Wallace, one of your NBC alumni, tomorrow morning. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Chris -<br />
How old are you? Three of your sentences start with &#8220;I mean,&#8221; two of them start with &#8220;In all honesty,&#8221; and one starts with &#8220;Honestly.&#8221;<br />
<i>In all honesty,</i> Chris, since you&#8217;ve been watching NBC for so long, you should like &#8220;Fox News Sunday,&#8221; with Chris Wallace, one of your NBC alumni, tomorrow morning.
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		<title>by: Anon</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22108</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22108</guid>
					<description> Chris, I'm more of an ABC viewer myself, but totally agree with your second paragraph. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Chris, I&#8217;m more of an ABC viewer myself, but totally agree with your second paragraph.
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		<title>by: Chris</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22106</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22106</guid>
					<description>Honestly, what exactly is the point of the whole labeling of networks in certain ways? In all honesty, if you don't like a select network, CHANGE THE CHANNEL, we have things called remotes people! I mean, in all respects, NBC has the best reporters in my own opinion of the big three, then again, maybe I think that since I've watched them on a regular basis for years.

In all honesty, I think Bill should be worried because he is what causes FNC to be accused of Republican-leaning ideas! I mean, many of the reporters do nothing more than that, report, but the commentative hosts are what is the main focus of the network. I mean, if you walked up to some random person and asked them about FNC, they'd probably say they know names like O'Reilly or Hannity, but would wonder who in the world is this Jon Scott, Shepard Smith, or Martha MacCallum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Honestly, what exactly is the point of the whole labeling of networks in certain ways? In all honesty, if you don&#8217;t like a select network, CHANGE THE CHANNEL, we have things called remotes people! I mean, in all respects, NBC has the best reporters in my own opinion of the big three, then again, maybe I think that since I&#8217;ve watched them on a regular basis for years.</p>
	<p>In all honesty, I think Bill should be worried because he is what causes FNC to be accused of Republican-leaning ideas! I mean, many of the reporters do nothing more than that, report, but the commentative hosts are what is the main focus of the network. I mean, if you walked up to some random person and asked them about FNC, they&#8217;d probably say they know names like O&#8217;Reilly or Hannity, but would wonder who in the world is this Jon Scott, Shepard Smith, or Martha MacCallum?
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		<title>by: bigred</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22075</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Krauthammer is definately a conservative, but he doesn't tow any party lines.  There should be more pundits like him out there, on both sides.

Back to O'Reilly vs. NBC, I think it's time FOX fights back against all the slams of conservative bias by exposing the rampant liberal bias in the mainstream media, especially at NBC.  To borrow a football term, the best defense is a good offense.  Exposing liberal bias in the MSM can only help FOX.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Krauthammer is definately a conservative, but he doesn&#8217;t tow any party lines.  There should be more pundits like him out there, on both sides.</p>
	<p>Back to O&#8217;Reilly vs. NBC, I think it&#8217;s time FOX fights back against all the slams of conservative bias by exposing the rampant liberal bias in the mainstream media, especially at NBC.  To borrow a football term, the best defense is a good offense.  Exposing liberal bias in the MSM can only help FOX.
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		<title>by: elmonica</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22070</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 13:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22070</guid>
					<description>Red,
I meant it tongue and cheek since I know he is a sometime Fox All-Star.  I agree he is a smart guy and I like reading or hearing his commentaries. However, since his political philosopy is different from mine I often consider his opinions to be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Red,<br />
I meant it tongue and cheek since I know he is a sometime Fox All-Star.  I agree he is a smart guy and I like reading or hearing his commentaries. However, since his political philosopy is different from mine I often consider his opinions to be wrong.
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		<title>by: erljr</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22069</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 13:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22069</guid>
					<description>The Matthews quote was in context - I saw it. The Brokaw quote, which I also saw, was NOT a partisan/biased comment. 

The thing I like about Matthews is that he is the only anchor on MSNBC or CNN who wears his liberal viewpoint on his sleeve. And that's a GOOD thing; FNC has lots of anchors who readily admit their liberal or conservative leaning bias: John Gibson, Sean Hannity, Alan Colmes, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Bob Beckel, Brit Hume, Geraldo Rivera, Rich Lowry. CNN has NONE! MSNBC has one admitted conservative, one admitted libertarian, and one admitted liberal. FNC doesn't deny that their hosts/anchors lean more right than left; they simply promise that we're going to hear both sides of the debate. 

I agree with O'Reilly that Matthews, and many others on the left, are invested in losing the war. That's something voters and viewers need to know. And the ones who really want to win this war are not on the far right; they are the moderates, like Lindsey Graham, Joe Lieberman, and John McCain. The media has a responsibility to tell us about this; instead the MSM (CNN especially) pretend to be objective and try to manipulate their viewers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The Matthews quote was in context - I saw it. The Brokaw quote, which I also saw, was NOT a partisan/biased comment. </p>
	<p>The thing I like about Matthews is that he is the only anchor on MSNBC or CNN who wears his liberal viewpoint on his sleeve. And that&#8217;s a GOOD thing; FNC has lots of anchors who readily admit their liberal or conservative leaning bias: John Gibson, Sean Hannity, Alan Colmes, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Bob Beckel, Brit Hume, Geraldo Rivera, Rich Lowry. CNN has NONE! MSNBC has one admitted conservative, one admitted libertarian, and one admitted liberal. FNC doesn&#8217;t deny that their hosts/anchors lean more right than left; they simply promise that we&#8217;re going to hear both sides of the debate. </p>
	<p>I agree with O&#8217;Reilly that Matthews, and many others on the left, are invested in losing the war. That&#8217;s something voters and viewers need to know. And the ones who really want to win this war are not on the far right; they are the moderates, like Lindsey Graham, Joe Lieberman, and John McCain. The media has a responsibility to tell us about this; instead the MSM (CNN especially) pretend to be objective and try to manipulate their viewers.
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		<title>by: bigred</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22067</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 12:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;The usually wrong Charles Krauthammer&quot;?????  Are you kidding me?  He is one of the most insightful &amp;amp; intelligent columnists/pundits on there, if not the most.  I'd love to see examples of how he's &quot;usually wrong&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;The usually wrong Charles Krauthammer&#8221;?????  Are you kidding me?  He is one of the most insightful &amp; intelligent columnists/pundits on there, if not the most.  I&#8217;d love to see examples of how he&#8217;s &#8220;usually wrong&#8221;.
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		<title>by: elmonica</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22060</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22060</guid>
					<description>Spud, You make too much good sense for these drones.   

Brokaw's comment was consistent with many other analysts including the usually wrong Charles Krauthammer.

As for Chris Mathew's blunt comment, while it may not have been the most politically correct way of expressing it, it was reflective of the fact that the U.S. may have to ultimately take sides in this war in order to end the sectarian violence.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Spud, You make too much good sense for these drones.   </p>
	<p>Brokaw&#8217;s comment was consistent with many other analysts including the usually wrong Charles Krauthammer.</p>
	<p>As for Chris Mathew&#8217;s blunt comment, while it may not have been the most politically correct way of expressing it, it was reflective of the fact that the U.S. may have to ultimately take sides in this war in order to end the sectarian violence.
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		<title>by: Spud</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22059</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22059</guid>
					<description>BTW, regarding Matthews' question, I would hold off rendering judgement because I would want to see the full context first. It's possible that that Matthews came up with that question on his own. But, based on the limited information we have at the moment...namely just the question and only the question...we don't know if Matthews was quoting something somebody else said and turned it into the form of a question. I won't pretend that Matthews has a liberal background because he does. And I won't pretend that at times he has been liberal in his questioning (though if you ask the far left, who last time I checked are still trying to boycott Matthews over the Bin Laden/Michael Moore comparison, Matthews ain't that liberal. And there have been other times, particularly the Impeachment of Clinton, when Matthews was not towing the Liberal line.). But I think to render an informed judgement and not guess at it we need to know the exact circumstances under which that question was asked. Otherwise we're all just guessing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>BTW, regarding Matthews&#8217; question, I would hold off rendering judgement because I would want to see the full context first. It&#8217;s possible that that Matthews came up with that question on his own. But, based on the limited information we have at the moment&#8230;namely just the question and only the question&#8230;we don&#8217;t know if Matthews was quoting something somebody else said and turned it into the form of a question. I won&#8217;t pretend that Matthews has a liberal background because he does. And I won&#8217;t pretend that at times he has been liberal in his questioning (though if you ask the far left, who last time I checked are still trying to boycott Matthews over the Bin Laden/Michael Moore comparison, Matthews ain&#8217;t that liberal. And there have been other times, particularly the Impeachment of Clinton, when Matthews was not towing the Liberal line.). But I think to render an informed judgement and not guess at it we need to know the exact circumstances under which that question was asked. Otherwise we&#8217;re all just guessing.
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		<title>by: greatglobalist</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22056</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 10:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22056</guid>
					<description>Are they excited when loud overenergetic reactions reflect from senior media person? Yes! 
When i knew Tom  Brokaw he wore a clair 'college cut' haircut  ,much plain look in eyes with simple loose suits and nothing as flashy like'kick the doors and kill the sunni's???? Who were his eyes meeting! 
Although since mideighties when i got off the seat leaving CBS NBC and ABC the prime US Television before  Sat Tele were introduced before  CNN after that i didnt need to fornicate until Fox and now the internet! I dont think i will really push into matches of Reilly one after another as the new wave blasts away the old glamoursome media and their tight lipped high rollers who might also be talking newer logic to lies because the merry go round they tell the world leaders are riding on Washington's  expense both home or abroad .
but im looking at a very  sound and respectable writing expression here.. I think complimenting someone for his work could be like 'subervience' unless you have the cash innhand to promote it ,but the way you write SPUD your a partie friend and worth a million too !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Are they excited when loud overenergetic reactions reflect from senior media person? Yes!<br />
When i knew Tom  Brokaw he wore a clair &#8216;college cut&#8217; haircut  ,much plain look in eyes with simple loose suits and nothing as flashy like&#8217;kick the doors and kill the sunni&#8217;s???? Who were his eyes meeting!<br />
Although since mideighties when i got off the seat leaving CBS NBC and ABC the prime US Television before  Sat Tele were introduced before  CNN after that i didnt need to fornicate until Fox and now the internet! I dont think i will really push into matches of Reilly one after another as the new wave blasts away the old glamoursome media and their tight lipped high rollers who might also be talking newer logic to lies because the merry go round they tell the world leaders are riding on Washington&#8217;s  expense both home or abroad .<br />
but im looking at a very  sound and respectable writing expression here.. I think complimenting someone for his work could be like &#8217;subervience&#8217; unless you have the cash innhand to promote it ,but the way you write SPUD your a partie friend and worth a million too !
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		<title>by: RGL</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22055</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I saw that O'Reilly interview with Andrea Mitchell, and they were mostly sparring about the presence of &quot;bias&quot; in NBC's reporting. If Brokaw indeed said the things quoted here, I agree he is wrong. The execution was carried out by the Iraqi government, and there was no surge in violence in the aftermath. Why would Brokaw have any problem in executing a brutal dictator responsible for killing thousands of his countrymen with poisonous gas?

On the Chris Mattthews' quote: That, without doubt, is irresponsible. That makes it appear like American soldiers are savages. They have a mission to do there, which is to 
end the insurgency that has resulted in the impasse we have been seeing. To reduce a complex problem to the level that Matthews did is not only unfair to coalition soldiers, but reeks of tabloid journalism. Matthews ought to apologize for those vile remarks.

There is free speech in this country, but let's make sure what is being said is fair, responsible, and not harmful to the solution we are seeking for the problems in Iraq. The president does not need to be bopgged down by armchair experts whose tongues are ever so loose to criticize him at every turn, and yet without having to shoulder that heavy burden. That's a big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I saw that O&#8217;Reilly interview with Andrea Mitchell, and they were mostly sparring about the presence of &#8220;bias&#8221; in NBC&#8217;s reporting. If Brokaw indeed said the things quoted here, I agree he is wrong. The execution was carried out by the Iraqi government, and there was no surge in violence in the aftermath. Why would Brokaw have any problem in executing a brutal dictator responsible for killing thousands of his countrymen with poisonous gas?</p>
	<p>On the Chris Mattthews&#8217; quote: That, without doubt, is irresponsible. That makes it appear like American soldiers are savages. They have a mission to do there, which is to<br />
end the insurgency that has resulted in the impasse we have been seeing. To reduce a complex problem to the level that Matthews did is not only unfair to coalition soldiers, but reeks of tabloid journalism. Matthews ought to apologize for those vile remarks.</p>
	<p>There is free speech in this country, but let&#8217;s make sure what is being said is fair, responsible, and not harmful to the solution we are seeking for the problems in Iraq. The president does not need to be bopgged down by armchair experts whose tongues are ever so loose to criticize him at every turn, and yet without having to shoulder that heavy burden. That&#8217;s a big difference.
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		<title>by: bigred</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22053</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 05:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>O'Reilly went out of his way to be nice to Andrea Mitchell.  However, he also made her look foolish.  She knows there's not a single conservative at NBC News, and that's why she couldn't name one.

The problem the mainstream media has is they accuse of FOX having a conservative bias (which, among its main commentators, it does), but they can never see their own liberal bias, although almost every single person working there is a liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>O&#8217;Reilly went out of his way to be nice to Andrea Mitchell.  However, he also made her look foolish.  She knows there&#8217;s not a single conservative at NBC News, and that&#8217;s why she couldn&#8217;t name one.</p>
	<p>The problem the mainstream media has is they accuse of FOX having a conservative bias (which, among its main commentators, it does), but they can never see their own liberal bias, although almost every single person working there is a liberal.
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		<title>by: alice cervantes</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22052</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oreilly is just a big old wannabee  He always brags when he is coming out on one of the 3 major networks. In his own mind he is still a tabloid reporter who gets no respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oreilly is just a big old wannabee  He always brags when he is coming out on one of the 3 major networks. In his own mind he is still a tabloid reporter who gets no respect.
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		<title>by: eddiebear</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22050</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 02:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22050</guid>
					<description>When Olby calls out somebody with the &quot;be a man&quot; line, that's laughable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>When Olby calls out somebody with the &#8220;be a man&#8221; line, that&#8217;s laughable.
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		<title>by: erljr</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22049</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 02:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22049</guid>
					<description>Like I said the other day, O'Reilly is finally on the offensive again. This isn't the feud. O'Reilly has made this bigger than Olbermann or Scarborough or Brokaw; and like you said, he has come armed with facts. He has been sitting back and planning for quite some time, saving up little tidbits that happened weeks or months ago, that he's never mentioned before. And his timing seems perfect. 

And congrats to the Olbermann team on the quick (if not entirely accurate) response. In the past I have seen several day old stories used in the WPITW segment; not this time!

I was yawning a week ago. Not any more.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Like I said the other day, O&#8217;Reilly is finally on the offensive again. This isn&#8217;t the feud. O&#8217;Reilly has made this bigger than Olbermann or Scarborough or Brokaw; and like you said, he has come armed with facts. He has been sitting back and planning for quite some time, saving up little tidbits that happened weeks or months ago, that he&#8217;s never mentioned before. And his timing seems perfect. </p>
	<p>And congrats to the Olbermann team on the quick (if not entirely accurate) response. In the past I have seen several day old stories used in the WPITW segment; not this time!</p>
	<p>I was yawning a week ago. Not any more.
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		<title>by: ImNotBlue</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22047</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Spud- True enough.  I'm interested to see if Bill calls back Bernie and Jane to talk about FNC next week.  He said he would after that interview... maybe then they'll bring back the study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Spud- True enough.  I&#8217;m interested to see if Bill calls back Bernie and Jane to talk about FNC next week.  He said he would after that interview&#8230; maybe then they&#8217;ll bring back the study.
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		<title>by: ImNotBlue</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22046</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22046</guid>
					<description>Big Dave- Your comment didn't make much sense.  How do you justify MSNBC's &quot;former democratic political honchos,&quot; but complain about FNC's &quot;former republican political honcho&quot;? Why does that make FNC lean &quot;waaaaaaaaaay&quot; right, but doesn't make MSNBC lean &quot;waaaaaaaaaay&quot; left?

To quote South Park... &quot;That does not make sense!  Chewbacca is a wookie!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Big Dave- Your comment didn&#8217;t make much sense.  How do you justify MSNBC&#8217;s &#8220;former democratic political honchos,&#8221; but complain about FNC&#8217;s &#8220;former republican political honcho&#8221;? Why does that make FNC lean &#8220;waaaaaaaaaay&#8221; right, but doesn&#8217;t make MSNBC lean &#8220;waaaaaaaaaay&#8221; left?</p>
	<p>To quote South Park&#8230; &#8220;That does not make sense!  Chewbacca is a wookie!&#8221;
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		<title>by: Spud</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22045</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22045</guid>
					<description>True enough. But the overall point is the same study that faults NBC faults FNC. And I mean faults as in O'Reilly is using the results to fault NBC, not that the report itself assigns guilt.

As for the Mitchell interview, it's never a fair fight when one side comes armed with facts prepared in advance and the other side doesn't. I think Mitchell did ok under the circumstances though I don't like the way she balked at the name one conservative question. I did find a flaw with O'Reilly's logic though. At the end he praised Mitchell for being fair and balanced and accurate yet totally discounts her appraisal of NBC News. How can one say that one is fair and balanced and then totally blow off what they're saying?

BTW, Countdown airs live. The Factor is taped. So yeah they did turn it around in half an hour and got it on the air. But judging by the results it seems sort of obvious that Olbermann had never seen the interview. How could he? He was on the air. But whoever filled him in did a poor job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>True enough. But the overall point is the same study that faults NBC faults FNC. And I mean faults as in O&#8217;Reilly is using the results to fault NBC, not that the report itself assigns guilt.</p>
	<p>As for the Mitchell interview, it&#8217;s never a fair fight when one side comes armed with facts prepared in advance and the other side doesn&#8217;t. I think Mitchell did ok under the circumstances though I don&#8217;t like the way she balked at the name one conservative question. I did find a flaw with O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s logic though. At the end he praised Mitchell for being fair and balanced and accurate yet totally discounts her appraisal of NBC News. How can one say that one is fair and balanced and then totally blow off what they&#8217;re saying?</p>
	<p>BTW, Countdown airs live. The Factor is taped. So yeah they did turn it around in half an hour and got it on the air. But judging by the results it seems sort of obvious that Olbermann had never seen the interview. How could he? He was on the air. But whoever filled him in did a poor job.
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		<title>by: ImNotBlue</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22044</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22044</guid>
					<description>Good job finding the study.  O'Reilly just DESTROYED Mitchell, and I'm glad he apologized a bit at the end... it's not her fault... but he was clearly dominant in that interview.

As for the study, you neglected to mention all of the findings in it... some of which change perspective a bit.  Here are the relevant parts:

• Among non-partisan sources, Kerry's evaluations were almost three-to-one positive; Bush's were over two-to-one negative.

• Among the networks, the gap between the candidates was largest on NBC; the coverage was most balanced on ABC.

• Fox News Channel was about as negative towards Bush as the broadcast networks, but Kerry's evaluations were negative by a five-to-one margin.

•  There was little difference in the evaluations of party- and campaign-based partisan sources, but Bush fared over four times as well as Kerry among non-partisan sources.

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Additionally, we must remember comparisons between the network news broadcasts and FNC are like comparing apples to oranges... yeah they're fruit, but not the same fruit.  FNC by-and-large is a network built around the concept of commentary and opinion, while the broadcast channels stand on the &quot;un-biased truth&quot; platform.

As for Olbermann getting his facts wrong, and/or not actually doing any research (how can he report on something that hasn't yet aired... oh wait, we saw him do that with Chris Wallace too)... well I think *yawn* sums it up nicely.  I'd love to see Bill debate Keith... but I thought Keith said that news debates make him ill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Good job finding the study.  O&#8217;Reilly just DESTROYED Mitchell, and I&#8217;m glad he apologized a bit at the end&#8230; it&#8217;s not her fault&#8230; but he was clearly dominant in that interview.</p>
	<p>As for the study, you neglected to mention all of the findings in it&#8230; some of which change perspective a bit.  Here are the relevant parts:</p>
	<p>• Among non-partisan sources, Kerry&#8217;s evaluations were almost three-to-one positive; Bush&#8217;s were over two-to-one negative.</p>
	<p>• Among the networks, the gap between the candidates was largest on NBC; the coverage was most balanced on ABC.</p>
	<p>• Fox News Channel was about as negative towards Bush as the broadcast networks, but Kerry&#8217;s evaluations were negative by a five-to-one margin.</p>
	<p>•  There was little difference in the evaluations of party- and campaign-based partisan sources, but Bush fared over four times as well as Kerry among non-partisan sources.</p>
	<p>&#8212;-<br />
Additionally, we must remember comparisons between the network news broadcasts and FNC are like comparing apples to oranges&#8230; yeah they&#8217;re fruit, but not the same fruit.  FNC by-and-large is a network built around the concept of commentary and opinion, while the broadcast channels stand on the &#8220;un-biased truth&#8221; platform.</p>
	<p>As for Olbermann getting his facts wrong, and/or not actually doing any research (how can he report on something that hasn&#8217;t yet aired&#8230; oh wait, we saw him do that with Chris Wallace too)&#8230; well I think *yawn* sums it up nicely.  I&#8217;d love to see Bill debate Keith&#8230; but I thought Keith said that news debates make him ill.
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		<title>by: Ira</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22041</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Once again, neither side came out smelling like a rose. They should both just stop it.&quot;

Spud: I'll jump in first before the foreign precincts check in and agree that your conclusion is absolutely correct.   

As I have said before, BOR's problem with NBC goes back a few years. He worked with Rather and Jennings but never at the Peacock. Maybe Brokaw rejected him, who knows?

It is nearly as ridiculous as The Donald-Rosie feud. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Once again, neither side came out smelling like a rose. They should both just stop it.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Spud: I&#8217;ll jump in first before the foreign precincts check in and agree that your conclusion is absolutely correct.   </p>
	<p>As I have said before, BOR&#8217;s problem with NBC goes back a few years. He worked with Rather and Jennings but never at the Peacock. Maybe Brokaw rejected him, who knows?</p>
	<p>It is nearly as ridiculous as The Donald-Rosie feud.
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		<title>by: Big Dave</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22040</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/01/05/open-warfare/#comment-22040</guid>
					<description>YAWN...who cares?  I ask BO this.. FNC is ran by Roger Ailes...former republican campaigner....so that makes FNC leaning waaaaaaaaaay towards the right.  He accuses NBC of being liberal just because some former democratic political honchos are working there. BO, look and take care of things at home before lurking up a tree you cant be brought down from!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>YAWN&#8230;who cares?  I ask BO this.. FNC is ran by Roger Ailes&#8230;former republican campaigner&#8230;.so that makes FNC leaning waaaaaaaaaay towards the right.  He accuses NBC of being liberal just because some former democratic political honchos are working there. BO, look and take care of things at home before lurking up a tree you cant be brought down from!
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