Comments on: Nevada Democratic Party Drops Out…

by: Ira

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:31:53 +0000

erljr: Check YouTube. I originally saw the clip on TV.

by: erljr

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:48:43 +0000

Ira - #42 - Do you have a link? I have to see this.

Arthur - an ideological apologist is someone who apologizes for his/her own views. It’s ironic because ideologues are expected to have the courage of their convictions. And for the record, there are just as many Democratic apologists as Republican apologists.

by: Arthur

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:14:00 +0000

Apologist - 1. a person who makes a defense in speech or writing of a belief, idea, etc.

You’re very welcomed.

I’m starting to feel the ’80s nostalgia, btw, with all the references to Bolsheviks and Mother Russia. Missing Reagan, are we? Well, given who’s leading the GOP these days, it’s no wonder.

by: Ira

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:05:53 +0000

Addendum:

Did anybody see the tape of Bill Maher lamenting about the assassination attempt on Dick Cheney not being successful?

And who was sitting next to Maher, quiet as a clam? None other than that renowned MSNBC Republican/Conservative Joe Scarborough!

I rest my case.

by: Ira

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:46:37 +0000

Aunt Mary: Thanks for the defense after my log off A young boy occasionally needs some rest.

Chris: I don’t expect any conservative to be in lockstep with the Bush Administration, certainly I’m not. But on MSNBC there is nobody even close to being supportive of the surge or much else with Bush.

As a former Congressman, Scarborough seems way out of his element (a) covering Hollywood and especially (b)bashing Fox. I’m shocked the suits at MSNBC allow a guest such as author Bob Kohn who refutes Joe about Fox.

Funny, but when O’Reilly first started attacking NBC/MSNBC I thought he was a tad paranoid because of Keith. But once again “BillO” as Olbermann likes to say, proves correct.

Anyway, back to the topic. It is apparent that John Edwards is mimicking the Howard Dean campaign of 2004. Dean got plenty of buzz but eventually failed because in the end, in America, the noise coming from the far-left crazies far exceeds their numbers. Any slim chance Edwards may have had just went out the window.

by: Dennis

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:22:49 +0000

Only the Bolshevicks on the left want no opposition News. Like it was in the USSR

by: ron

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:47:36 +0000

I think all of us conservatives need to support our amazing president. George Bush is a man of God who is the best presdent our country as ever ever had. We need to suport our president in this time of war. If we weren’t fighting them over there we would be fighting them over here. The secualr progresifes are rubning our great country. We all need to rejooce that we have some a smart campasionete president. He speaks for all of us with no voice.

by: Pat R.

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:33:24 +0000

Which of these traditionally slaps democrates[sic]?

Chris Wallace
Mara Liasson
Juan Williams
Jane Hall
Neal Gabler
Bob Beckel
Kirsten Powers
Julie Rogini
Laura Schwartz
Wendy Murphy
Alan Colmes
Susan Estrich

And a new contributor has been hired. Harold Ford.

Further, it isn’t Fox News that is getting the shaft, it’s the candidates themselves. I doubt FNC will lose anything in the ratings, but wherever the debate winds up, it won’t have Fox viewership numbers.

by: STP

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:11:11 +0000

“FNC is going to pounce all over this.”

I thought so too but I watched nearly all of F&F this morning and didn’t hear a word about it. Go figure. Maybe I missed their mention of it while I was in the bathroom brushing my teeth?

by: Arthur

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:58:25 +0000

“I think that Tucker Carlson and Joe Scarborough are solid conservatives - they bash the Bush Administration because the Bush Administration, to many conservatives I know, has not acted as a conservative administration. Case in point - most conservatives find President Bush’s amnesty program for illegal immigrants to be problematic as well as their lack of fiscal discipline. Note that such pundits will speak with nostalgia of the Ronald Reagan years.”

I can’t believe the real conservatives aren’t all over the administration for the serious, scary erosion of privacy and civil rights.

And it is demonstrably true that people who watch FNC as their primary source of news are not only less informed than people who get their news from other outlets, they are MISinformed.

by: spiffo

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:20:21 +0000

Yea, I’m so glad CNN and MSNBC wouldn’t ever slap Conservatives around.

by: HUGH

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:11:02 +0000

come on yo guys you all seem pretty smart but your overthinking this stuff the black and white of it is fox news has traditionally slapped democrates around more than other channels thats a fact so it right they should get the shaft from the democrates the last comment by their boss about Omoma was out of bounds were the democrates suppose to roll over again? fox isn’t the only news outlete out there. Its abou time the democrates stood up on their hind lets and snapped back, good for them about time.

by: Libs R Moonbats

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:59:23 +0000

Big mistake by the Dems. Now they’re pinned to their loony left fringe again, but what else is new. I’ll just have to accept that these fringey’s are always going to be what the Dem partry is all about from here on out. Being on FOX would have given them a chance to woo conservative voteers. And that party definitely needs a man-size good ol’ kick in the rear that sends them towards the middle/right.

Now, by ducking FOX, they’re just cutting and running again all over. Just change the name of that party to the Loony’s.

by: phil

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:56:18 +0000

Makes the Democrats look weak.FNC is going to pounce all over this.

by: bill

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:02:08 +0000

“CNN, MSNBC, and NPR NOT propanda organs for the DNC - yea - right - got any good swamp land for sale.

by: saneman

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:00:08 +0000

CNN, MSNBC, and NPR not propoganda organs for the DNC - what alternative universe to a lot of you Democrats live in!!

by: saneman

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:46:32 +0000

For MikeD - Comment 11 - “CNN, MSNBC, and NPR are not prpoganda organs for the DNC.” Gee, what alternate universe do you live in. Fox is no further to the right than the above mentioned are to the left - that is a simple fact. But then “intelligent” liberals like you have trouble with facts and the truth. So typical of the lefties. You sir, are clueless.

by: FishOil

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:22:19 +0000

erljr - You are correct - “apologist” is not correct in regards to Olbermann. I was thinking of “apologist” in terms of never taking on the Democrats, but that is not the correct usage.

by: Aunt Mary

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 03:06:13 +0000

FishOil — I will concede 50 percent on Tucker — maybe that is why his ratings are always so low — MSMBC’s very liberal audience does not support him. However, I can not budge on Joe — I watch their shows “EVERY” day and you can have a great debate and disagree with Bush on whatever subject you choose without the “let’s make sure we BASH and make enough personal attacks on Bush to keep our liberal audience entertained”.

by: erljr

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:47:54 +0000

Points all taken FishOil… until you say Olbermann is an apologist. Huh? Olbermann has never apologized for anything. Did you misspeak/miswrite? I don’t get it.

by: FishOil

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:30:34 +0000

Aunt Mary - I see your point and I think that you are correct….however, to a certain extent. I too have watched Tucker and Scarborough Country many, many times. What I see are two men who espouse conservative views but do not hesitate to take on the Bush Administration when they think it is not performing well. Is this to pander to a liberal audience? Perhaps, to a degree. Then again, I think that we may be confusing party loyalty with ideology. When he was on “Crossfire,” Carlson was the Republican and, yes, defended their positions and actions to a fault. What I see now is a conservative at odds with the current Republican party. Just as an example, the Republicans have a legacy of being small government with little interference into people’s daily lives. Carlson espouses this every week with his stance on drug laws and such (hence he could be misconstrued as a libertarian at times). I think his ideology is intact and he has not sacrificed it to appeal to a liberal audience. Many times I’ve heard him bash Democrats for “not having any plans” in regards to Iraq. He is certainly not the apologist that Olbermann is.
Anyway, you make a good point that Carlson and Scarborough have to, say, preach to the choir, but then again I would not say that they “do not go against the liberal grain.”

by: Aunt Mary

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:28:29 +0000

Chris — There is a difference in disagreeing with someone on certain topics and bashing, bashing, bashing, bashing for ratings.

by: erljr

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:13:03 +0000

They’ve both compromised their principles. Tucker has always been a conservative apologist. Now they both are.

by: Aunt Mary

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:04:25 +0000

FishOil — Ira is very much correct about this. The reason I did not add Tucker or Scarborough in as “TOKEN” conservatives is because I would be making a false statement. I watch both of their shows everyday — Tucker on Crossfire presented the conservative point of view very well — Scarborough I have a long history with — Both Tucker and Joe know that MSNBC has a very liberal audience, therefore they cater to them. They do not go against the liberal grain at MSNBC — WHY? Because they want a “JOB”.

by: Chris

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 01:51:32 +0000

Ira, wait, so every conservative is supposed to be promoting the President of the United States? What about those who believe in fiscal conservatism, or promote the ideas of small government, both of which Bush doesn’t appear to promote.

by: eddiebear

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 01:38:17 +0000

Fish:

Maybe so. But to watch the way Scarborough acts toward FnC, it is obvious he is doing and saying what he does and says merely to keep his job on a network that has affirmed its leftward tilt by re-signing Olbermann.

by: FishOil

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 01:26:22 +0000

Ira wrote:

“Aunt Mary: Pat Buchanan has always been against the Iraq War and Tucker Carlson and Scarborough regularly bash the Bush Administration. In reality, there are no conservatives left at MSNBC.”

Ira - I think that Tucker Carlson and Joe Scarborough are solid conservatives - they bash the Bush Administration because the Bush Administration, to many conservatives I know, has not acted as a conservative administration. Case in point - most conservatives find President Bush’s amnesty program for illegal immigrants to be problematic as well as their lack of fiscal discipline. Note that such pundits will speak with nostalgia of the Ronald Reagan years.

I think Carlson and Scarborough are Conservatives (although the former, I think, would be better described as Libertarian) that are disgrunted with the Republican party of today.

by: Ira

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 01:13:42 +0000

ChrisM & Aunt Mary: Dollars to Donuts that Mike D is not an American.
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Aunt Mary: Pat Buchanan has always been against the Iraq War and Tucker Carlson and Scarborough regularly bash the Bush Administration. In reality, there are no conservatives left at MSNBC.

Whoever said that Rita Cosby is leaving MSNBC for political reasons may be right!

by: Aunt Mary

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:36:03 +0000

MikeD — I feel sorry for you — It is thought like yours that helps fuel all the hatred in America. I watch FOX, MSNBC and CNN. I want “ALL” views, I know when I watch FOX that they present the Conservative point of view, however they “BY FAR” have a better cross over of guests that more intelligently voice the Democratic view. Also when I watch MSNBC I know that I am getting the liberal point of view. Unfortunately they do not let anyone except a “TOKEN” Pat Buchanan voice any opposition to their liberal agenda.

by: ChrisM

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:14:52 +0000

MikeD,
You sound extremely beligerent and idiotic. Take your paranoid rantings to one of those hate-America far-left web sites and let intelligent liberals have a place here.

You’ve obviously never watched FOX judging by your ridiculous rantings. If you truly think liberals don’t watch FOX you’re incredibly misinformed. What possesses you to act like such a moron?

by: spiffo

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:10:58 +0000

Mike D knows all about the “lunatic fringe”, he’s their poster child.

by: erljr

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:54:07 +0000

Believe it or not, I used to see the Democratic Party as the party of tolerance. Anyone who thinks that is still the case needs to open their eyes.

by: Goldfish

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:48:45 +0000

MikeD, you’re sounding paranoid. And about MSNBC, you have got to be kidding me. I watch MSNBC and I’m sure they lean left. So does NPR.

by: Goldfish

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:47:08 +0000

I know a lot folks who watch Fox and they are not hardcore Republicans. People from all walks of life watch Fox News. They watch news from all of the cable outlets.

by: MikeD

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:42:25 +0000

“The GOP isn’t afraid of CNN, MSNBC, NPR or public television.”

None of these organizations are propaganda organs for the DNC.

FOX “news” caters to the lunatic fringe. These people are brainwashed. They don’t think. Many of them believe we found WMD in Iraq and that the war is going well. They would never vote for a Democrat anyway. Dems who go on FOX are wasting their time.