Aunt Mary: That was especially with the recent immigration debate when Cavuto, Gibson and Hannity all opposed the President’s position (as did Colmes) and O’Reilly was only luke-warm.

#26 - peoplepeople — You say “the networks, CNN, MSNBC all split viewers. If there was only one they would crucify Fox”. I do not see it that way, lets say MSNBC went off the air and CNN got EVERY single one of their viewer. Most days if you add CNN and MSNBC together you do not reach FOX News total. That to me is not a “Crucifixion”.

People & FishOil: If he was on either CNN or Fox and mired in 27th place after so many years on the network, Matthews would have been long gone!

#26 - peoplepeople — You say “the networks, CNN, MSNBC all split viewers. If there was only one they would crucify Fox”. I do not see it that way, lets say MSNBC went off the air and CNN got EVERY single one of their viewer. Most days if you add CNN and MSNBC together you do not reach FOX News total. That to me is not a “Crucifixion”.

The difference between FNC and the other networks is not some right-wing agenda or bias. FNC just gives conservative views an equal chance to be heard - without disdain and without ambushes. And that’s what the other networks just can’t stand.

And look who’s number 16!!

“Stay tuned. CNN and HN will be also making prime time changes that will stir the pot to make for an interesting year ahead. Stay tuned.”

Yes because the last round of primetime changes at CNN worked out so well they already have to do another round and haven’t taken a dint out of Fox and are even being passed by MSNBC. The moron who’s running the show at CNN needs to be relieved of his duties as he’s shown that he’s completely incompetent. And this crack head thinks that CNN is the most unbiased channel…..ha ha ha. I’ve never heard such drivel in my entire life. Yet another a$$ kissing, suck up to CNN shill there never was. At least we now know that your opinion is biased.

#26 peoplepeople — You suggest that “CNN and MSNBC split viewer and if there was only one, that network would crucify Fox. —– The way I see it is, if for example MSNBC went off the air and EVERY single one of their viewers went to CNN, they would still fall short of a “Crucifixion”, because most days when you add MSNBC and CNN total viewers they do not total more that FOX News.

But that ratings increase peaked in Fall 2006. There hasn’t been any real growth since that time.

If you look at MSNBC’s First Quarter 2007 press release and compare it to their Second Quarter 2007 press release, you’ll see that they’ve actually lost viewers over the past couple months:

FIRST QUARTER 2007 - http://tinyurl.com/2oyxsj
SECOND QUARTER 2007 - http://tinyurl.com/35bdjn

Olbermann went from a first quarter of 711,000 (252,000 in the Demo) to a second quarter of 710,000 (241,000).

Chris Matthews at 5pm went from a 450,000 (147,000) down to a 407,000 (135,000). At 7pm he went from a 457,000 (169,000) down to a 423,000 (146,000)

Tucker at 4pm went from a 343,000 (113,000) down to a 301,000 (102,000). The press release doesn’t mention Tucker’s 6pm ratings in the second quarter.

Scarborough went from 513,000 (186,000) in the first quarter, down to a 467,000 (170,000) in the second quarter.

So they did a good job last summer. However, they haven’t made any progress since then. Those glowing press releases may fool the liberal TV critics into writing some positive articles. But I’m sure the money men in charge aren’t happy.

As for Lou Dobbs, I’ve read that comment several times before on this blog. Lou Dobb’s flagship issue currently is illegal immigration. But that is not Lou Dobb’s only ‘large’ issue if you watch the show; he actually has many that could instantly replace ‘illegal immigration’ if need be. China for one, and many of the unbalanced trade laws this nation of ours has with other countries. He talks very much about the average workers in this country losing their jobs to outsourcing which is still widely going on with these disgraceful corporations. He talks widely about the education system in the country and how it’s failing our children, and other topics. So you see, there are many issues this very hardened commentator can bring off the back burner and make a case for that will get the viewing public interested in. Don’t count Dobb’s out, he’s probably one of the most raw, honest, astute, under-rated commentators in cable news.

I seems to me, most FNC viewers believe because they watch the #1 cable news channel, that somehow that equates to the channel being ‘unbiased’. After all, why would they have the ‘most’ viewers if they were ‘biased’? Well, I’m here to set the record straight (as if no one other knew) that FNC does lean heavily to the right, just as MSNBC leans heavily to the left, and CNN out of all three probably is a bit to the left, but certainly the most unbiased out of all three stations.

FNC came around and filled a ‘Republican’, right-leaning void. If there was another ‘right leaning’ news station for example, FNC ratings would not be as high, as they would be splitting total viewers with that ‘other’ station. That is what we see happening with the left leaning organizations: the networks, CNN, MSNBC all split viewers. If there was only one, they would crucify FNC.

FNC is but a blip in the entire scheme of news organizations (when considering print, networks, magazines, radio, paid radio, etc). They are winning the ratings currently, but what this chart above does not show, is overall, CNN and FNC have actually lost viewers in the past year, while MSNBC has gained viewers.

Do not count CNN and MSNBC out. An organization that has been in the number one slot as FNC has, only strengthens the will of its competitors to take them down. With the ENORMOUS corporations backing MSNBC and CNN, they aren’t going down without a fight. I believe you will begin to see further signs of FNC’s ratings eroding to CNN and MSNBC.

As I have also said before, MSNBC is in the midst of a re-organization, and will be adding new shows, as you’ve seen already. Just because they were kicked down and on the ground for a long while, doesn’t mean a recovery isn’t in store. Stay tuned. CNN and HN will be also making prime time changes that will stir the pot to make for an interesting year ahead. Stay tuned.

Terance: I’m not sure I get your point about MSNBC. Sure, what they lost with Imus, they may have gained with KO but overall IMO, the network appears to be making little progress.

It is true the amnesty bill got killed, but where is the border and port security? The Corporations are still pushing for wide open borders. There is still the North American Alliance crowd the Nafta Super Highway being built. I think Lou Dobbs has lots to cover.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/paulachartjune19.jpg

So all this talk of KO’s amazing ratings increases will be coming to an end very soon.

As for MSNBC:

- I caught on to Olbmermann’s show last summer, and since then I’ve grown tired of his relentless jihad against O’Reilly as well as his relentless Bush bashing. I think the charge that MSNBC has taken as “hard turn to the left” (as O’Reilly charges) is somewhat true but I chalked a lot of it up to the fact that the Bush Administration has not performed well in many areas and they were just calling it as they saw it. However Olbermann is now just carrying the far left’s water by calling for Bush and Cheney to resign, having a stroke over the commutation of Libby’s verdict and so on. I think if he continues down this road he will maintain a core audience but won’t see much growth.

- I’ve come to enjoy Tucker Carlson’s show…I think he has engaging discussions with smart guests and the format is finally grounded. Too bad his ratings are so bad….I guess his days are numbered. He ranked below a show that was cancelled.

- It will be interesting to see if “Hardball” rebounds in the fall once people start to pay more attention to the Presidential primaries. His ratings have been going down, but I think that’s because people are tuning out the inside the beltway stuff that Matthews’ show focuses on. Personally I can’t stand his interviewing style, but he has a passion for the beltway news that is hard to match.

- It’s only fair to give it a chance to grow an audience, but I don’t see “Morning Joe” doing very well. The best they can hope for is to stay neck-in-neck with “American Morning” in my opinion. It’s apparent that dumping Imus was a mistake….they had a solid 2nd place show on their hands.

- Will “Live with Dan Abrams” be the permanent replacement, and if so can he build an audience? I think so, as it seems they would be establishing their own version of Greta/Nancy Grace, covering various crimes, court cases and missing women. Dan is surely capable, but is there room for a third?

On a side note, now that the immigration bill is dead and seems to be so until after a new President is sworn in, will Lou Dobbs see a significant ratings decline?

OH and the numbers for Fox aren’t really surprising. They’ve been on top for a long time.

PMSNBC Q2 ratings at @ 2:30 pm today. / (slash) holiday /
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Followed by the REAL story @ 7:30 pm Program Ranker

Nice try…….

Hmmm - July 3,2007 @ 11:22 pm

I give her credit though, because she gets interviews and information that no one else does, like the walk-through she did of Jessie Davis’s home and her interview with ANS’s father. And if the Aruban police had just handed the entire investigation to her, the Natalee Holloway story would probably be solved! She interviewed just about everyone that was ever connected to the case and was breaking news no one else did for months on end.