Comments on: The battle for 2nd… http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/ Unvarnished news & opinion on cable news Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:20:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Missy http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43272 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:20:24 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43272 Steve L, that is so true. Isn't it ironic that Congress wants to apply the "Fairness Doctrine" to talk radio, the only venue in which conservative views prevail? Yet they have no plans to apply it to the any of the network or cable TV venues (all of which are liberal, except for moderate Fox) or our nation's mostly left-of-center newspapers and magazines. Steve L, that is so true. Isn’t it ironic that Congress wants to apply the “Fairness Doctrine” to talk radio, the only venue in which conservative views prevail? Yet they have no plans to apply it to the any of the network or cable TV venues (all of which are liberal, except for moderate Fox) or our nation’s mostly left-of-center newspapers and magazines.

]]> by: Ladyone http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43256 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:13:50 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43256 Alll I know is that I enjoy watching MSNBC, CNN, FOX, and HEADLINE NEWS. I wouldn't want to lose any of them. They are all different and I like each of them for different reasons. Alll I know is that I enjoy watching MSNBC, CNN, FOX, and HEADLINE NEWS. I wouldn’t want to lose any of them. They are all different and I like each of them for different reasons.

]]> by: Steve L http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43221 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:44:06 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43221 With more viewer choices available, NBC and MSNBC are falling by the wayside because of their long standing problem with news objectivity and lack of ideological diversity. The management caters to the tastes and preferences of the Upper East Side Elite. This just keeps making the market for Fox bigger and bigger and they must be very pleased that GE is doing nothing about its market share loss. Can anyone name a reporter for NBC with a conservative point of view? We can all name quite a few with a liberal point of view (For example, In NBC’s book there is no other side to the global warming debate). In a perfect world we would get both sides with equal vigor from any news organization. Free markets are wonderful and we are witnessing an end to the elite MSM monopoly of the news. It’s a lot of fun to watch. With more viewer choices available, NBC and MSNBC are falling by the wayside because of their long standing problem with news objectivity and lack of ideological diversity. The management caters to the tastes and preferences of the Upper East Side Elite. This just keeps making the market for Fox bigger and bigger and they must be very pleased that GE is doing nothing about its market share loss.

Can anyone name a reporter for NBC with a conservative point of view? We can all name quite a few with a liberal point of view (For example, In NBC’s book there is no other side to the global warming debate). In a perfect world we would get both sides with equal vigor from any news organization. Free markets are wonderful and we are witnessing an end to the elite MSM monopoly of the news. It’s a lot of fun to watch.

]]> by: Hmmm http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43220 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:33:04 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43220 Sorry, just trying to keep y'all grounded. It's really gonna be quite ugly in a few months. As for you 14, 10 says everyone has and ground axe. But I'm guessing you would say your a moderate or independent, right? Hmmm - July 11, 2007 @ 432 pm Sorry, just trying to keep y’all grounded. It’s really gonna be quite ugly in a few months.

As for you 14, 10 says everyone has and ground axe. But I’m guessing you would say your a moderate or independent, right?

Hmmm - July 11, 2007 @ 432 pm

]]> by: Obama in 08! http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43219 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:31:17 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43219 I still do not see how Beck was suppose to put a dent in the Countdown ratings. It seems to make sense that he would do worse than Paula. One week over a holiday seems a little premature to be crowing about losing second place. I still do not see how Beck was suppose to put a dent in the Countdown ratings. It seems to make sense that he would do worse than Paula. One week over a holiday seems a little premature to be crowing about losing second place.

]]> by: Mr A http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43215 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:02:03 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43215 Who is this 'they' #10? You speak as if i have an axe to grind - don't lump me in with the Fox Fans! There's nothing wrong with questioning the premise that just because of one week, MSNBC is suddenly a threat to CNN's second place. Such stories have cropped up regularly recently and disappear just as quickly, proving to be false dawns. Who is this ‘they’ #10? You speak as if i have an axe to grind - don’t lump me in with the Fox Fans! There’s nothing wrong with questioning the premise that just because of one week, MSNBC is suddenly a threat to CNN’s second place. Such stories have cropped up regularly recently and disappear just as quickly, proving to be false dawns.

]]> by: Terance http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43214 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:57:19 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43214 Hey, Hmmm! Have you ever thought of walking around town with a sandwich board on advertising FNC & Fox Biz? Hey, Hmmm! Have you ever thought of walking around town with a sandwich board on advertising FNC & Fox Biz?

]]> by: erljr http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43212 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:52:04 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43212 I think you're right about CNN's 8pm slot Terance. The only way make it competitive again is to put Larry King there. I think you’re right about CNN’s 8pm slot Terance. The only way make it competitive again is to put Larry King there.

]]> by: Hmmm http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43211 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:43:31 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43211 Sorry kids, July 4th was Wednesday, the middle of a shortened week. Varieties numbers perhaps are not SKEWED, but they are disingenuous at best. You can't use a summer holiday week to pronounce a ratings tightening. Sorry, don't think you get it. As for you 2, the only thing I see "getting started" is Fox Bidness Network. The bar couldn't be lower for those at Msnbc and they can't even get their shadows to watch. Cue the Mr. Hammer music .. Hmmm - July 11, 3:43 pm Sorry kids, July 4th was Wednesday, the middle of a shortened week.
Varieties numbers perhaps are not SKEWED, but they are disingenuous at best.
You can’t use a summer holiday week to pronounce a ratings tightening. Sorry, don’t think you get it.

As for you 2, the only thing I see “getting started” is Fox Bidness Network. The bar couldn’t be lower for those at Msnbc and they can’t even get their shadows to watch.

Cue the Mr. Hammer music ..

Hmmm - July 11, 3:43 pm

]]> by: Peoplepeople http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43207 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:07:58 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43207 Thank you Terance. They're just not getting 'it'! Thank you Terance. They’re just not getting ‘it’!

]]> by: Terance http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43205 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:56:16 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43205 Mr. A, the "poor performance" of Beck was right on par with PZ's usual numbers, yes? Mr. A, the “poor performance” of Beck was right on par with PZ’s usual numbers, yes?

]]> by: Mr A http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43204 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:50:02 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43204 Peoplepeople, the facts are that the overall numbers for the week were skewed by the poor performance of the Beck specials on CNN and the relatively high numbers of the Predator docs on MSNBC. I'm not underestimating anything, just reading the ratings that Spud posts everyday. Peoplepeople, the facts are that the overall numbers for the week were skewed by the poor performance of the Beck specials on CNN and the relatively high numbers of the Predator docs on MSNBC. I’m not underestimating anything, just reading the ratings that Spud posts everyday.

]]> by: Peoplepeople http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43177 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:53:09 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43177 Steve L, you'll be eating your very words my friend. Steve L, you’ll be eating your very words my friend.

]]> by: Missy http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43176 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:51:43 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43176 Terance, that could be. But in my case, I often don't have the TV turned to CNN or HN, so I would not have seen the ads, and that may be true of others as well. I basically just watch Lou Dobbs, and Anderson Cooper on occasion. Terance, that could be. But in my case, I often don’t have the TV turned to CNN or HN, so I would not have seen the ads, and that may be true of others as well. I basically just watch Lou Dobbs, and Anderson Cooper on occasion.

]]> by: Terance http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43175 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:45:36 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43175 Missy, didn't I see tons of GB promos on CNN & HLN about his 8pm specials? Anyway, I still subscribe to the theory that PZ has ruined the 8pm slot. So, it doesn't really matter who they put in there. The ratings will remain stagnant until I'm proven otherwise. Missy, didn’t I see tons of GB promos on CNN & HLN about his 8pm specials? Anyway, I still subscribe to the theory that PZ has ruined the 8pm slot. So, it doesn’t really matter who they put in there. The ratings will remain stagnant until I’m proven otherwise.

]]> by: Missy http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43171 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:01:49 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43171 I just saw TV Newser's comments that Olbermann "trounced" Glenn Beck at 8 p.m. last week. Sorry, but there may not have been a lot of people who even knew Beck was on at that time. Even I (a Beck fan) kept forgetting to watch at that time, and I'm sure others did as well. Put Beck up against KO permanently, and it will be Keith who will be trounced! I just saw TV Newser’s comments that Olbermann “trounced” Glenn Beck at 8 p.m. last week.

Sorry, but there may not have been a lot of people who even knew Beck was on at that time. Even I (a Beck fan) kept forgetting to watch at that time, and I’m sure others did as well.

Put Beck up against KO permanently, and it will be Keith who will be trounced!

]]> by: Steve L http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43164 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:27:58 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43164 #2 “Again people, don’t underestimate MSNBC. They’re just getting started.” Yea, after about 10 years we are still in third place, but don’t give up because our lousy strategy and liberal news bias is about to work. Any day now! #2 “Again people, don’t underestimate MSNBC. They’re just getting started.”

Yea, after about 10 years we are still in third place, but don’t give up because our lousy strategy and liberal news bias is about to work. Any day now!

]]> by: Peoplepeople http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43154 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:23:58 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43154 Mr A, are we reading the same article? It did not say that the ratings were 'skewed' by subbing Beck for Zahn. Zahn herself does not get great ratings in the prized demo. They just washed each other out. Also, MSNBC showed re-runs on July 4th. Pathetic that could help bring them to this second place finish. But good nevertheless. Again people, don't underestimate MSNBC. They're just getting started. Mr A, are we reading the same article? It did not say that the ratings were ’skewed’ by subbing Beck for Zahn. Zahn herself does not get great ratings in the prized demo. They just washed each other out. Also, MSNBC showed re-runs on July 4th. Pathetic that could help bring them to this second place finish. But good nevertheless. Again people, don’t underestimate MSNBC. They’re just getting started.

]]> by: Mr A http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43152 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:00:16 +0100 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/07/11/the-battle-for-2nd/#comment-43152 But as the article itself states - the numbers are skewed by those disastrous Glenn Beck specials and MSNBC's doc-block marathon on July 4. Nothing has changed meaningfully, CNN is still regularly second and MSNBC seems to flit between third and fourth more than it does second. But as the article itself states - the numbers are skewed by those disastrous Glenn Beck specials and MSNBC’s doc-block marathon on July 4. Nothing has changed meaningfully, CNN is still regularly second and MSNBC seems to flit between third and fourth more than it does second.

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