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October 31, 2007

Hannity & Colmes fisks Planet in Peril: Update…


Last Friday, Hannity & Colmes aired a report on CNN’s Planet in Peril by going to the University of Alabama to have students in a forum give their opinions on the CNN doc. The “forum” was moderated by Dr. John Christy, climatologist and critic of the “Global Warming” theory.

Monday, ICN was contacted by one of the students who attended the forum, Christopher Hain. He wrote that several of the students there felt that what aired on Hannity & Colmes was not an accurate portrail of either the forum or some of the views represented on it. The forum itself was open to all Atmospheric Science graduate students at the University and not just students who attended Dr. Christy’s classes; 10 students in all. Of those 10, Hain says three or four disagreed with at least part of the responses given on the H&C segment, which in percentage terms would be 30-40% of the students.

In watching the video I noticed Alan Colmes asked Dr. Christy, “…the students we saw in that clip…were they representative of the people in your class? There were a lot of students who were not photographed who probably had a different view, right?” To which Christy responded, “I think there were a wide range of views presented in that and those were not special students selected. They volunteered to come.” Which begs the obvious question, if there was “a wide range of views presented” why were only the critical views shown in the segment?

ICN interviewed Hain Monday afternoon…

Which areas in particular were your views not reflected?

At this point I can only speak for myself, but I perceived the CNN special to be quite good. Each segment of the special introduced a certain way that humans are leaving their “footprint” on the environment, and an explanation of the potential causes of several of the things that were discussed (i.e. Climate Change) were spoken to with respect to hypothetical causes, in other words, they did their best not to try to pass things off as fact where a certain uncertainty still exists. I’ll be honest, I was quite selfish during the debate, with respect to the fact that I stated my opinion on every topic that was brought up by the moderator, yet nothing I said was presented on the Hannity and Colmes segment. I feel this was the case because my views were “neutral to at times very positive” and in no way were negative towards the CNN special. Without giving you an exact number (I can’t speak for students who chose not to speak), I’d estimate that the forum presented views from both sides, but neither side was 0verwhelmingly in the majority, but I still believe the “neutral to positive” viewpoint was still more represented in the actual forum, when compared to the negative viewpoint.

What areas specifically were “misrepresented”?

Hopefully some of the other students will respond, especially the ones who had their actual words misrepresented. I did not have my actual words misrepresented but I did appear in the segment while Dr. Christy was talking to Hannity and Colmes during the live interview. As a whole, I am disappointed that Fox News chose to only present one side of the debate even though they had every opportunity to provide a “fair and balanced” view of the opinion of students at UAH. As a student here at UAH, I am very proud of our Atmospheric Science department and I quite displeased that the views of mine and even students that did not participate in the forum can now be associated with the “viewpoint” that Fox News presented about our student population here at UAH.

The obvious question, which I know the critics of your analysis will ask, is…how can those who didn’t say anything feel that things were being mis-represented? If they didn’t speak up during the forum, it would be hard to argue that they were mis-represented.

Yeah I agree with what you are saying and its a valid point. Its hard to complain you were misrepresented when you didn’t actually take the time to make your voice heard. But on the other hand, I think some students don’t want UAH to become associated as an Atmospheric Science department that is consisted of only Climate Change “skeptics”, which is quite far from the truth but could be perceived from the Hannity and Colmes segment. I think we tend to be easily concerned about the reputation of our department because ultimately when we graduate and look for employment in our field, we don’t want to be unfairly judged because the reputation of our department was tarnished during a Fox News segment.

On Tuesday ICN interviewed a second forum attendee, Kevin Quinlan.

How many students are upset with this? How many are in your group? And how did the percentages break down?

There were a total of ten students who participated in the forum, but the invitational email was sent out all graduate Atmospheric Science students. I would say that out of the 10 people in the forum, 2 people said nothing during the discussion, and 2 other people only had 1 or 2 things to say. Since only 4 persons viewpoints were shown in the piece, its hard to say that everybody’s statements were misrepresented, but those of us who did not make statements that Fox wanted to hear were not aired. As a whole, I would say that 60-70% of the comments were favorable towards the CNN program.

Which areas in particular were your views not reflected?

Climate change can be a very emotional topic for many people, it is for this reason that I chose my words very carefully before I spoke during the forum. The comments that I made during the discussion were usually backed up with data that was presented during the 2007 IPCC Summary for Policy Makers. This data is a compilation of the worlds experts on climate change, and something that I happen to agree very strongly with. Generally my comments were made in response to a student or professor criticizing CNN or if I felt that their statements were inaccurate as compared to the best data available.

What specific examples of misrepresentation were there?

Because my words were not used in the piece by Fox, I cannot say that I was personally misrepresented, however, I can say that I believe the discussion was misrepresented. The clips that Fox news showed were of the students who agreed with their political agenda, or they would cut off the clip before the student speaking was able to make their point. This chopping of the sound bytes made the student appear to disagree with CNN, but in reality, they were about to make their point backing up CNN.

The reason that I am writing to you right now is not to clear my own name, because my name was not used during the piece and my words were not slandered. The reason I am writing is because I feel that our Atmospheric Science Department as a whole has been very misrepresented by Fox News and the Hannity & Colmes show. The comments made during the forum were not overwhelming in favor or against the CNN program. I would characterize the views as favorable towards CNN, but the Fox News network did not represent any of the views that were favorable to CNN’s.

Newshounds has an email from a third forum participant, Will McCarty, which I reprint here…

Friday night, Hannity and Colmes aired a segment entitled “Planet in Perspective”. It was designed as a response to CNN’s “Planet in Peril” specials aired last week and was proposed as an opportunity to provide reactions and responses from the perspective of graduate students in the Atmospheric Sciences. Since this was how it was proposed to us, a group of ten students within the department, ranging from first-year masters students to a Ph. D. candidate within 6 months of completion (myself) had volunteered to participate.

The Professor contacted by Fox News to organize the segment was Dr. John Christy. While I have much respect for the man (he’s a nice guy, a fantastic Professor, and a very intelligent man), I know well enough that he is on the edge of the “Global Warming” debate towards the “skeptic” side. While I am not an expert on Global Warming or Climate Change, I volunteered as one of the highly-regarded graduate students within the department to participate. I was entering as a neutral party, going in skeptical of both the ability of CNN to put a special together, using a journalist, biologist, and doctor, to fairly and neutrally portray the subject and of Fox News, to be able to portray the reactions of the graduate students fairly, not warp the reactions to fit their agenda.

Well, I was very pleasantly surprised with the neutrality of the CNN piece and their presentation of multiple sides of the arguments of the segments they had. This was certainly the reaction of the majority of the group of graduate students.

This point of view, and the overwhelming neutral to favorable reaction to the special, was wiped out by Fox News and Hannity and Colmes by the art of creative editing. I was featured commenting on how it was a “human interest” piece and how CNN’s concern was “ratings” during the piece, and very clearly cut off before being able to finish my thought. Major discussion participants and leaders were simply cut altogether because their perspective didn’t fit H&C/FNC’s agenda for the piece.

This was a terrible example of selective journalism and, more concerning to me, has tarnished a young but up-and-coming department in the atmospheric sciences that I, as well as many others, have worked very hard to develop an elite reputation within the field.

ICN contacted Hannity & Colmes regarding this story. Hannity & Colmes Senior Producer John Finley commented…

We taped more than 50 minutes of the class discussion and edited down the most compelling comments to about 3 minutes. Nobody was told what to say and there was no agenda in selecting what made air. The portions that were included in the segment were representative of the issues raised in the discussion. Due to the time constraints of the segment, not every who student who participated could be included.

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  1. I watched Planet in Peril and there was nothing biased about it. And only a small portion of it focused on the effects of global warming on Greenland. They covered other topics that Fox News would never cover, and of course, were never mentioned on Hannity & Colmes. I think the title “Planet in Peril” scared many off from watching it, which is a shame because it was an excellent program.

    Comment by ragsko — October 31, 2007 @ 7:33 pm

  2. I have a couple questions without taking a position on global warming/climate change.. Does anyone (with a straight face) think FNC’s going to “report” on CNN’s programming with anything but negativity? Btw, what was FNC doing scoping out these students to watch CNN’s stuff for anyway? Wouldn’t it make a little more sense to have those same people watch one of FNC’s offerings?

    Also, Spud, good job on the interviews.

    Comment by Terance — October 31, 2007 @ 7:49 pm

  3. This is what happens when you bring partisanship into reporting. H&C should not do special reports on things without all sides being debated. The show is a debate show, not an investigative show. Can anyone explain to me how it is right for Hannity to be a producer and Alan just a counterweight if Hannity picks the segments?

    Comment by jmkaib — October 31, 2007 @ 7:56 pm

  4. I know you guys are more favorably disposed to FOX News than we are so thanks for reporting on this. They ought to have these students on and give them an opportunity to present what they feel is the true picture. Shame on FOX!

    Comment by Ellen of News Hounds — October 31, 2007 @ 8:07 pm

  5. I wouldn’t characterize ICN as being “more favorably disposed” to FNC. I just try to play fair, which means everything FNC does is not automatically suspect. The same thing goes for MSNBC, specifically Olbermann.

    Comment by Spud — October 31, 2007 @ 8:44 pm

  6. Honestly, this doesn’t amaze me one but, but I’m goad to see that these students are coming forward about what really happened in the discussion about the special. Even as the FNC representative said (John Finley), the whole point was to cut it down to the most “compelling comments,” which of course could mean any long explanation isn’t important.

    If anything, H&C is not a place to talk about actual students with knowledge to talk about their opinions on the special just plain due to the point H&C is purely political, not really focusing on the science or otherwise.

    Still, I think one of the comments that was taken was somewhat right though, this was more of a human interest piece than a “5% of carbon emissions cause 65 cubic feet….” blah blah statistics. If anything, a lot of the content was more about illegal animal trading and other related items, not completely climate change, but maybe that’s me.

    Comment by Chris (clind) — October 31, 2007 @ 8:52 pm

  7. Poor Fox! They go that far out of their way just to show up CNN as biased, but Fox is the network that ends up with pie on their face.

    Comment by Gramps — October 31, 2007 @ 10:03 pm

  8. This may be off topic. But Alan Colmes has been the meanest this week that I have ever seen him. Wrathful, malevolent,
    squinched up.
    I have to look away from this malcontent.

    Comment by Cella — October 31, 2007 @ 10:36 pm

  9. Why, because H&C is unbalanced because Sean gets EP credits and Alan doesn’t. Sean gets to invite people on the show. (Alan can too, but only Sean can follow through)

    Comment by Aaron — November 1, 2007 @ 12:01 am

  10. Call me a skeptic… but I’m a little leery about two students who came forth to talk to ICN… who both said “they didn’t want to speak for anyone else…” and then proceed to do just that. To me, it sounded like they wished they had said more at the debate, but didn’t… and are trying to say something now.

    Also, any comments made and posted on “Newshounds” are highly suspect. The site has a goal of hurting FNC, routinely lies and misrepresents the network (see some of J$’s reporting on the site), and consistently reject the comments of posters of opposing viewpoints.

    I do agree, however, that H&C probably shouldn’t have covered the story… especially not from this angle. Seemed unnecessary to have the student POV, could have left it with a Professor or two, and call it a day. I don’t think the student forum really added anything to the story. When I saw this the first time, I had a feeling that something like this would happen. Thumbs down on using a “student debate” on something that didn’t specifically involve students.

    Comment by ImNotBlue — November 1, 2007 @ 12:26 am

  11. I applaud the students who came forward with their concerns on how the forum and their views were portrayed on the report.

    Comment by myview — November 1, 2007 @ 9:07 am

  12. What?? Fox misrepresenting people’s opinions on their competitors? worse, Fox misrepresenting people’s opinions on their competitor’s reporting on a piece on the environment? Next you’ll be telling me the sun rises in the east! Say it ain’t so…

    The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

    Comment by Arthur — November 1, 2007 @ 11:25 am

  13. I’m not blue,
    If you think News Hounds are suspect because we have a goal of hurting FNC (actually, our goal is to expose its bias), you should be equally if not more suspicious of J$’s site which routinely lies and misrepresents US. Not only that, despite the fact that the obnoxious Johnny Dollar has been repeatedly asked to stay off our site (because he is incapable of having a grown-up, fact-based debate without resorting to name-calling and personal attacks) he insists on coming back with the sole purpose of demeaning and denigrating us. He finally stopped (at least for the time being) once we threatened to report him to his ISP for harrassment. Just to be on the safe side, however, I have a compilation of some of his posts, ready to send off, if he returns again.

    I certainly hope that you and anyone else who reads his blog will ask us for the other side of the story before swallowing his allegations unquestioned.

    Comment by Ellen of News Hounds — November 4, 2007 @ 4:04 pm

  14. So Ellen, do you deny that you routinely delete the comments of people who prove your ‘accusations’ false?

    As J$ (and many of the other posters on his site) have documented, when calling you and your site out on its falsehoods, lies, and distortions… you remove their comment. Why is that? Is that how you have an ‘grown-up’ debate? By only including the comments you feel the people should see?

    And yes, all of “News Hounds” information is ‘suspect.’ And here’s why: You have a vested interest in finding bias at FNC. If you came out tomorrow, and admitted that FNC was ‘fair and balanced,’ what do you think you’d be doing the day after that? Looking for a new job… that’s what you’d be doing.

    You need to find problems with FNC for the sake of your career, your paycheck, and your future. There is too much at stake for you to actually be unbiased. Thusly, all ‘information’ must be discounted when it comes from your site. People who collect a paycheck, based on whether or not they can come up with a negative story about FNC, cannot be trusted to actually be fair when talking about FNC.

    Oh, and not to worry. I don’t simply believe everything J$ says… I’ve been to your site. I’m registered there too. I’ve posted, I’ve been deleted. So here’s the question back to you. How do you justify the lies you tell? If it were me, I’d have trouble sleeping.

    Comment by ImNotBlue — November 4, 2007 @ 10:22 pm

  15. > you should be equally if not more suspicious of J$’s site which routinely lies and misrepresents US.

    Hah! I see no examples are provided. I’m sure all the videos I’ve posted that expose your falsehoods are somehow “lying” videos. Right.

    Not only that, despite the fact that the obnoxious Johnny Dollar has been repeatedly asked to stay off our site (because he is incapable of having a grown-up, fact-based debate without resorting to name-calling and personal attacks)

    A blatant falsehood, but that’s to be expected. I instituted a no personal attacks rule on my own site as a direct reaction to the rampant name-calling that people are subjected to if they dare point out the errors of the hounds.

    > he insists on coming back with the sole purpose of demeaning and denigrating us. He finally stopped (at least for the time being) once we threatened to report him to his ISP for harrassment.

    Actually I come back to expose falsehoods and lies with facts. And I didn’t stop because of your ludicrous threats against free speech. I stopped because you banned me and I couldn’t post. Why is it that you are so afraid of someone correcting your mistakes?

    And thanks, INB, for your comments. I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees through the hounds.

    Comment by johnny dollar — November 4, 2007 @ 11:23 pm

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