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	<title>Comments on: Wednesday&#8217;s Numbers&#8230;</title>
	<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/</link>
	<description>Unvarnished news &#038; opinion on cable news</description>
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		<title>by: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66330</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66330</guid>
					<description>Hey I was going on the facts as I knew they were via Spud.  Don't bring TVN into this.  And snarky isn't an observation that can be backed up by facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey I was going on the facts as I knew they were via Spud.  Don&#8217;t bring TVN into this.  And snarky isn&#8217;t an observation that can be backed up by facts.
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		<title>by: Fortune Cookie</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66297</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66297</guid>
					<description>Your comments *were* snarky (&quot;Damn, Keith&quot;) and ill-informed (based on incorrect data, even after being provided a link to correct data).

That's not a personal attack, just an observation that can be backed up with facts.

But I think it's cute that you're trying to save face when you're clearly wrong - about your original comment, about your reply to elmonica, and about your reply to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Your comments *were* snarky (&#8221;Damn, Keith&#8221;) and ill-informed (based on incorrect data, even after being provided a link to correct data).</p>
	<p>That&#8217;s not a personal attack, just an observation that can be backed up with facts.</p>
	<p>But I think it&#8217;s cute that you&#8217;re trying to save face when you&#8217;re clearly wrong - about your original comment, about your reply to elmonica, and about your reply to me.
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		<title>by: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66277</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66277</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;941,000 &amp;gt; 653,000.

Please visit links before making snarky, ill-informed comments. &lt;/i&gt;
Personal attacks have to be responded to. Wise up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>941,000 &gt; 653,000.</p>
	<p>Please visit links before making snarky, ill-informed comments. </i><br />
Personal attacks have to be responded to. Wise up!
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		<title>by: Fortune Cookie</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66249</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66249</guid>
					<description>Aaron, so an implication that I can't read and do math and a statement to 'go back to school' *isn't* a personal attack?

You and kbass are classy people. And I'm not even an Olberman fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Aaron, so an implication that I can&#8217;t read and do math and a statement to &#8216;go back to school&#8217; *isn&#8217;t* a personal attack?</p>
	<p>You and kbass are classy people. And I&#8217;m not even an Olberman fan.
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		<title>by: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66240</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66240</guid>
					<description>Now I can retract my statements from 3 and 17 since Spud corrected the post.  The previous posts were based on what the ratings were as Spud originally posted them.  
&lt;i&gt;So pretend your relevant here if you want, but you are not. You are a fly on the wall.&lt;/i&gt;
We are all relevant here as long as we articulate a strong point based on fact not personal attacks. I guess that excludes you as relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Now I can retract my statements from 3 and 17 since Spud corrected the post.  The previous posts were based on what the ratings were as Spud originally posted them.<br />
<i>So pretend your relevant here if you want, but you are not. You are a fly on the wall.</i><br />
We are all relevant here as long as we articulate a strong point based on fact not personal attacks. I guess that excludes you as relevant.
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		<title>by: Ira</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66229</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66229</guid>
					<description>elmonica:  Since when did you start eating your own?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>elmonica:  Since when did you start eating your own?
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		<title>by: ImNotBlue</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66227</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66227</guid>
					<description>Elmonica... exactly when was that decided again?

I've been here almost 3 years now... and I don't remember any such agreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Elmonica&#8230; exactly when was that decided again?</p>
	<p>I&#8217;ve been here almost 3 years now&#8230; and I don&#8217;t remember any such agreement.
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		<title>by: Spud</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66226</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66226</guid>
					<description>I fixed the Demo numbers for MSNBC last night but forgot to fix the P2+ numbers. Now everything is correct...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I fixed the Demo numbers for MSNBC last night but forgot to fix the P2+ numbers. Now everything is correct&#8230;
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		<title>by: kbass</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66209</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66209</guid>
					<description>Typical responce from an Olbermann fan. ATTACK ATTACK. Oh by the way I've been watching this board long enough to know your love for Olbermann and your defense of him on here. Go back to your pining for Bear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Typical responce from an Olbermann fan. ATTACK ATTACK. Oh by the way I&#8217;ve been watching this board long enough to know your love for Olbermann and your defense of him on here. Go back to your pining for Bear!
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		<title>by: elmonica</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66202</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66202</guid>
					<description>Aaron, you and kb ass haven't been on this board very long - but long before your pathetic arrival here, it was agreed to after many debates that the Demo is the key indicator in the ratings race. 

So pretend your relevant here if you want, but you are not. You are a fly on the wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Aaron, you and kb ass haven&#8217;t been on this board very long - but long before your pathetic arrival here, it was agreed to after many debates that the Demo is the key indicator in the ratings race. </p>
	<p>So pretend your relevant here if you want, but you are not. You are a fly on the wall.
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		<title>by: eddiebear</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66200</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66200</guid>
					<description>17: no, they also are pimping that Tivo meme to try to improve their ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>17: no, they also are pimping that Tivo meme to try to improve their ratings.
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		<title>by: kbass</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66195</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66195</guid>
					<description>Be nice Aaron, you know KO fans only look at the P25-54 demo. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Be nice Aaron, you know KO fans only look at the P25-54 demo.
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		<title>by: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66193</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66193</guid>
					<description>Hey fortune cookie, can you read and do math?
Show                               p2+
Countdown with Keith Olbermann     572,000
Nancy Grace                        653,000
653,000 &amp;gt; 572,000
Go back to school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey fortune cookie, can you read and do math?<br />
Show                               p2+<br />
Countdown with Keith Olbermann     572,000<br />
Nancy Grace                        653,000<br />
653,000 &gt; 572,000<br />
Go back to school.
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		<title>by: Unanimous</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66181</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66181</guid>
					<description>#12- I should have known.  I stand corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#12- I should have known.  I stand corrected.
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		<title>by: Paco</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66166</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66166</guid>
					<description>Wow... congratulations to Dan Abrams! It looks like people are catching on to how absolutely brilliant this man is. I don't even mind the fact that he covers some tragedy TV because he does spend the majority of his show on the issues and doesn't sensationalize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wow&#8230; congratulations to Dan Abrams! It looks like people are catching on to how absolutely brilliant this man is. I don&#8217;t even mind the fact that he covers some tragedy TV because he does spend the majority of his show on the issues and doesn&#8217;t sensationalize.
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		<title>by: THE Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66150</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66150</guid>
					<description>OK I'm changing my nick because I definitely did NOT post that idiotic comment above...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>OK I&#8217;m changing my nick because I definitely did NOT post that idiotic comment above&#8230;
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		<title>by: eddiebear</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66149</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66149</guid>
					<description>KO's bad ratings is why he had his &quot;Special Comment&quot; last night.

I also loved how he refused to interview Andy Card, yet waited three days to call him a Nazi. 

I guess &quot;Truth to Power&quot; and &quot;The Modern Day Murrow&quot; now mean cowardice and hiding under the desk for three days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>KO&#8217;s bad ratings is why he had his &#8220;Special Comment&#8221; last night.</p>
	<p>I also loved how he refused to interview Andy Card, yet waited three days to call him a Nazi. </p>
	<p>I guess &#8220;Truth to Power&#8221; and &#8220;The Modern Day Murrow&#8221; now mean cowardice and hiding under the desk for three days.
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66130</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66130</guid>
					<description>&quot;Ah, brilcream? A little dab will do yah.&quot;

You youngens should know that brilcream is a hair slicker downer not a coloring.  That would be &quot;Just for Men&quot;.

&quot;Here’s an idea: Let Kiran be Kiran.&quot;

Here's a better idea, let Kiran go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Ah, brilcream? A little dab will do yah.&#8221;</p>
	<p>You youngens should know that brilcream is a hair slicker downer not a coloring.  That would be &#8220;Just for Men&#8221;.</p>
	<p>&#8220;Here’s an idea: Let Kiran be Kiran.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Here&#8217;s a better idea, let Kiran go.
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		<title>by: Unanimous</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66119</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66119</guid>
					<description>Get a load of the new cnn.com/am website of John Roberts.  He's trying to look like some kind of young go-getter.  His hair is even a little darker.  Ah, brilcream? A little dab will do yah.  An obvious attempt to prop up the ratings.  Here's an idea: Let Kiran be Kiran.  Not some kind of half-assed Soledad.  Why did you hire her in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Get a load of the new cnn.com/am website of John Roberts.  He&#8217;s trying to look like some kind of young go-getter.  His hair is even a little darker.  Ah, brilcream? A little dab will do yah.  An obvious attempt to prop up the ratings.  Here&#8217;s an idea: Let Kiran be Kiran.  Not some kind of half-assed Soledad.  Why did you hire her in the first place?
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		<title>by: ImNotBlue</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66102</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66102</guid>
					<description>Okay, settle down.  It seems that our &quot;friends&quot; over at TV Newser have a typo... as both sets of numbers they list are labeled &quot;25-54 demographic: (L +SD)&quot;... when I think only one should be.

But more important than that... TV Newser's numbers and Spud's numbers don't match.  Someone's wrong.  Both are labeled as L+SD.  If you match up the numbers, it appears that someone is off by an hour at some points.  Either Olbermann got 572 (ICN)... or Hardball (TVN) did.

Spud, a little help here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Okay, settle down.  It seems that our &#8220;friends&#8221; over at TV Newser have a typo&#8230; as both sets of numbers they list are labeled &#8220;25-54 demographic: (L +SD)&#8221;&#8230; when I think only one should be.</p>
	<p>But more important than that&#8230; TV Newser&#8217;s numbers and Spud&#8217;s numbers don&#8217;t match.  Someone&#8217;s wrong.  Both are labeled as L+SD.  If you match up the numbers, it appears that someone is off by an hour at some points.  Either Olbermann got 572 (ICN)&#8230; or Hardball (TVN) did.</p>
	<p>Spud, a little help here&#8230;
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		<title>by: Unanimous</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66098</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66098</guid>
					<description>Should have read your fortune today, Aaron.  Ouch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Should have read your fortune today, Aaron.  Ouch.
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		<title>by: kbass</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66096</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66096</guid>
					<description>Thank you for proving my case. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thank you for proving my case.
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		<title>by: Fortune Cookie</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66089</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66089</guid>
					<description>941,000 &amp;gt; 653,000.

Please visit links before making snarky, ill-informed comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>941,000 &gt; 653,000.</p>
	<p>Please visit links before making snarky, ill-informed comments.
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		<title>by: Unanimous</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66088</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66088</guid>
					<description>Are the Dan Abrams numbers correct? Seem kind of wacky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Are the Dan Abrams numbers correct? Seem kind of wacky.
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		<title>by: kbass</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66083</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66083</guid>
					<description>Last time I checked 653,000 came before 572,000. Oh thats right, KO fans only use the 25-54 demo for ratings. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Last time I checked 653,000 came before 572,000. Oh thats right, KO fans only use the 25-54 demo for ratings.
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		<title>by: Fortune Cookie</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66079</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66079</guid>
					<description>Except not, Aaron.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_wednesday_jan_30_76353.asp#more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Except not, Aaron.</p>
	<p><a >http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_wednesday_jan_30_76353.asp#more</a>
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		<title>by: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66078</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66078</guid>
					<description>Nancy beats Countdown again.  Damn, Keith.</description>
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		<title>by: Terance</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66066</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66066</guid>
					<description>Wow, Lou Dobbs already beat Shep in the key demo! 354 vs 345

Oh alright, I'll admit it was due to the debate. But, it'll still be interesting to see how they fare in the long run.. especially if Kitty Pilgrim starts winning too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wow, Lou Dobbs already beat Shep in the key demo! 354 vs 345</p>
	<p>Oh alright, I&#8217;ll admit it was due to the debate. But, it&#8217;ll still be interesting to see how they fare in the long run.. especially if Kitty Pilgrim starts winning too.
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66064</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/31/wednesdays-numbers-86/#comment-66064</guid>
					<description>Looks like the 10pm Hardball pretty much flopped on MSNBC -- will be interesting to see how KO does tonight.  

BTW Spud, any luck on getting the CNBC figures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Looks like the 10pm Hardball pretty much flopped on MSNBC &#8212; will be interesting to see how KO does tonight.  </p>
	<p>BTW Spud, any luck on getting the CNBC figures?
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