Comments on: Top 25 CNBC primetime programs for the past five years… http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/ Unvarnished news & opinion on cable news Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:17:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: RC http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67363 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:46:15 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67363 the problem is we don't have ratings information for the top 25 straight cnbc programs since the action of releasing these ratings was underhanded. really, we're not stupid. give us a top 25 ratings list of the straight cnbc programs, and let's discuss. the problem is we don’t have ratings information for the top 25 straight cnbc programs since the action of releasing these ratings was underhanded. really, we’re not stupid. give us a top 25 ratings list of the straight cnbc programs, and let’s discuss.

]]> by: ImNotBlue http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67361 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:27:19 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67361 RC... there's a big difference in what you're suggesting. None of the networks top programs are their "straight news" programs. Those just don't pull in the eyeballs. But there's a big difference between the networks top programs being "News Analysis," versus "Reruns of a Game Show." RC… there’s a big difference in what you’re suggesting. None of the networks top programs are their “straight news” programs. Those just don’t pull in the eyeballs.

But there’s a big difference between the networks top programs being “News Analysis,” versus “Reruns of a Game Show.”

]]> by: RC http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67356 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:37:13 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67356 fox's ratings follow the same lead as cnbc. the top programs on fox news aren't news programs at all, they're bill o'reilly. fox’s ratings follow the same lead as cnbc. the top programs on fox news aren’t news programs at all, they’re bill o’reilly.

]]> by: Cory!! Strode http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67353 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:55:06 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67353 ImNotBlue "It doesn’t necessarily matter what program’s ahead on the same network, rather the real question is, “How do they fair against similar programming?” That’s not here on this chart." That doesn't even matter in the case of CNBC, it's "How many eyeballs do they get in their target demographic." If they deliver more people who make more than $100K than other networks, they can charge more for ads. Kind of like how "Boston Legal" doesn't have to come in 2nd or 3rd in their time slot, as long as they are the top rated network show for people who make over $100K in order to stay on the air for five years or more. ImNotBlue

“It doesn’t necessarily matter what program’s ahead on the same network, rather the real question is, “How do they fair against similar programming?” That’s not here on this chart.”

That doesn’t even matter in the case of CNBC, it’s “How many eyeballs do they get in their target demographic.” If they deliver more people who make more than $100K than other networks, they can charge more for ads. Kind of like how “Boston Legal” doesn’t have to come in 2nd or 3rd in their time slot, as long as they are the top rated network show for people who make over $100K in order to stay on the air for five years or more.

]]> by: alphillips http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67351 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:19:04 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67351 Thank you for validating this info with the name Nielsen as inaccurate and incomplete as they are, they are the industry standard bearers. Oh, for the return of Arbitron and other more truthful and accurate surveys. There are many obvious reasons for your tremendous "success" CNBC but, you wouldn't wanna hear 'em. Thank you for validating this info with the name Nielsen as inaccurate and incomplete as they are, they are the industry standard bearers. Oh, for the return of Arbitron and other more truthful and accurate surveys. There are many obvious reasons for your tremendous “success” CNBC but, you wouldn’t wanna hear ‘em.

]]> by: Jim http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67350 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:51:07 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67350 Fox News, BO, et al get torn apart in the MSM, media outlets, local newspapers, etc. on a daily basis without comparison. What is the actual point of that and who benefits. Fox News, BO, et al get torn apart in the MSM, media outlets, local newspapers, etc. on a daily basis without comparison. What is the actual point of that and who benefits.

]]> by: Terance http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67347 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:14:29 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67347 I don't have a problem with networks releasing something like, "AC360 spanks Greta in the 10pm key demo" or "Greta spanks AC360 in P2+" or "BO spanks everybody at all hours in both demos." But, when you just basically exploit another network without a comparison, then the I wonder what the actual point is and who benefits or get embarrassed. And its not that hard to figure out. So, is it asking too much for all charts/pdf's to have a company logo? And FTR, I watch more FBN than CNBC at this point. I don’t have a problem with networks releasing something like, “AC360 spanks Greta in the 10pm key demo” or “Greta spanks AC360 in P2+” or “BO spanks everybody at all hours in both demos.” But, when you just basically exploit another network without a comparison, then the I wonder what the actual point is and who benefits or get embarrassed. And its not that hard to figure out. So, is it asking too much for all charts/pdf’s to have a company logo? And FTR, I watch more FBN than CNBC at this point.

]]> by: Aaron http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67338 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:05:34 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67338 Well Ira, this is the Westminster Dog Show, not just the Beetle Lake Kansas Middle School Parent Teacher Association Dog Show. Well Ira, this is the Westminster Dog Show, not just the Beetle Lake Kansas Middle School Parent Teacher Association Dog Show.

]]> by: Ira http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67336 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:32:00 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67336 Aaron: And I'll add that the Dog Show topped the No.2 show on the list in P2 by nearly 50%! It was a landmark night for CNBC. Aaron: And I’ll add that the Dog Show topped the No.2 show on the list in P2 by nearly 50%!

It was a landmark night for CNBC.

]]> by: Aaron http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67329 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:44:29 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67329 This is so random, why would CNBC release this knowing it makes them look bad. As Ira said, it must be because of the big night. This is so random, why would CNBC release this knowing it makes them look bad. As Ira said, it must be because of the big night.

]]> by: besmart http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67328 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:37:03 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67328 Ira, you don't even know how to spell Nielsen. Nielsen never releases charts for cable networks like CNBC. It simply doesn't happen. This chart came from Fox, like all random ratings information that casts CNBC in a bad light. There is simply no other source for it. Please apply your critical thinking skills to these situations. Ira, you don’t even know how to spell Nielsen. Nielsen never releases charts for cable networks like CNBC. It simply doesn’t happen.

This chart came from Fox, like all random ratings information that casts CNBC in a bad light. There is simply no other source for it.

Please apply your critical thinking skills to these situations.

]]> by: Ira http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67326 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:14:32 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67326 <i>Spud, any reply?</i> He may be too busy taking a spelling test! Terance: You are beginning to sound a tad paranoid! I agree with Sam that the listing is likely random and had nothing to do with a CNBC competitor. Normally the day after a Super Bowl or the Academy Awards, AP, perhaps in concert with Nielson, usually releases similar all-time rankings. Because they set a viewing record last night, Nielson likely did the same with CNBC. Spud, any reply?

He may be too busy taking a spelling test!

Terance: You are beginning to sound a tad paranoid! I agree with Sam that the listing is likely random and had nothing to do with a CNBC competitor.

Normally the day after a Super Bowl or the Academy Awards, AP, perhaps in concert with Nielson, usually releases similar all-time rankings. Because they set a viewing record last night, Nielson likely did the same with CNBC.

]]> by: ImNotBlue http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67323 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:05:12 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67323 What does it matter who put it out (even though there is no evidence, just assumption)? What does it matter if the info is valid? Seems like focusing on WHO takes away from the WHAT this info is saying. HOWEVER, what is the impact or meaning of this info? On the surface, it looks like its "bad news for CNBC." Their financial based programming doesn't do as well as their game show rebroadcasts. But that's only what's on the surface. Does it really matter which programs win, or is their position against the competition the real point of interest? For me, it's the latter. It doesn't necessarily matter what program's ahead on the same network, rather the real question is, "How do they fair against similar programming?" That's not here on this chart. It doesn't matter of the "Magic Bullet" infomercial gets the biggest peice of the network pie... only that it beats the competition. What does it matter who put it out (even though there is no evidence, just assumption)? What does it matter if the info is valid?

Seems like focusing on WHO takes away from the WHAT this info is saying.

HOWEVER, what is the impact or meaning of this info? On the surface, it looks like its “bad news for CNBC.” Their financial based programming doesn’t do as well as their game show rebroadcasts. But that’s only what’s on the surface. Does it really matter which programs win, or is their position against the competition the real point of interest?

For me, it’s the latter. It doesn’t necessarily matter what program’s ahead on the same network, rather the real question is, “How do they fair against similar programming?” That’s not here on this chart.

It doesn’t matter of the “Magic Bullet” infomercial gets the biggest peice of the network pie… only that it beats the competition.

]]> by: Sam http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67322 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:52:52 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67322 I think the posting of this is rather random and i too doubt CNBC put this out, but i could be wrong. I think the posting of this is rather random and i too doubt CNBC put this out, but i could be wrong.

]]> by: Terance http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67318 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:41:54 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67318 Bigred, its not wining, just taunting. It doesn't take a pr hack to figure out CNBC didn't release them. Oh and did I mention Bloomberg doesn't even subscribe to Nielson data? Who does that leave, BigRed? CNN? MSNBC? HLN? Bigred, its not wining, just taunting. It doesn’t take a pr hack to figure out CNBC didn’t release them. Oh and did I mention Bloomberg doesn’t even subscribe to Nielson data? Who does that leave, BigRed? CNN? MSNBC? HLN?

]]> by: bigred http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67316 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:40:03 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67316 Hilarious. Terance, quit your whining... or unveil your proof it came from FOX. Spud, any reply? Hilarious.

Terance, quit your whining… or unveil your proof it came from FOX.

Spud, any reply?

]]> by: Terance http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67314 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:37:53 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67314 Thanks for the numbers, FNC/FBN. Maybe next time you'll have the courage to attach your logo, cowards. Thanks for the numbers, FNC/FBN. Maybe next time you’ll have the courage to attach your logo, cowards.

]]> by: Missy http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67311 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:29:34 +0000 http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/02/12/top-25-cnbc-primetime-programs-for-the-past-five-years/#comment-67311 In other words, none of their original programming made the cut. In other words, none of their original programming made the cut.

]]>